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osama bin laden of course killed in abbottabad, and that islamic extremism is unable to carry out thear attack it did on 9/11. at the same time, though, we've had a lot of strategic failure. that's been true, that's been put in stark relief this summer, we watched photos, images, video out f afghanistan, and a war that stretched on for 20 years until it is now being fought on both sides by people that have no memory of the day that started it all. >> no question about it. and it is a subject that you and i could talk about the rest of the afternoon. but that's all the time we have now. garrett graff, thank you so much for the work on this topic. it is so important. if you haven't picked it up and looked at garrett's article in "the atlantic" and the book about the subject, it is worth checking out. thanks so much for your time. we appreciate it. >> always a pleasure, jim. >>> coming up, fencing expected back on the capitol. growing concerns about a right wing rally supporting the insurrectionists. a live report next. what happens when we welcome change? we can make emergency medicine

. >> the fact that ten years into the conflict that we were to finally find bin laden in abbottabad,city, should tell us something about how good a friend pakistan was. >> i think it really comes down to the united states never really fundamentally understood afghanistan and what needed to -- it didn't understand the motivations of the taliban, where they were gaining their support from. >> support that was not only coming from pakistan. many afghans who may have not liked the taliban's harsh brand of justice saw them nevertheless as the lesser evil. compared to the corrupt afghan government and its burgeoning military. >> there was a continuing problem with corruption in the army, and that was discouraging. >> i'll give you an example. one of the senior leaders while i was there made a deal with the chinese to buy boots for the afghan forces. that leader was my understanding given a kickback for buying the boots from the chinese. he then gave them to his soldiers and those boots fell apart and they didn't take care of his soldiers the way those boots were designed to do. and i think

in 2009, us officials they discovered that courier, known as al—kuwaiti, lived in abbottabad in northerndo you think that in a way close that chapter for the american people in afghanistan because mike did it change from that moment on the way people viewed the war in afghanistan? i moment on the way people viewed the war in afghanistan?— war in afghanistan? i think for many dead. i war in afghanistan? i think for many dead- lthink— war in afghanistan? i think for many dead. i think for _ war in afghanistan? i think for many dead. i think for many, _ war in afghanistan? i think for many dead. i think for many, it _ war in afghanistan? i think for many dead. i think for many, it was, i dead. i think for many, it was, you know, long in coming and that kind of for those of us who are still actively engaged on many different parts of fighting the war on terror, which, remember, we called the global war on terror, we knew it wasn't over. it was, we needed to do that, he needed to be taken out, but the situation and had metastasized and it continued to continue to be attached to the homeland.

bill mcraven, head of joint special operations command, seals on the helicopters going into abbottabadsaid you read this in 10 or 12 hours? i think you can beat the record here. this is even more after page turner. you know how it turns out of i promise you. you're going to sit there turning pages, what happens next? stuart: chris wallace, i'm on it. if i can do it in 10 hours, you will be the first to know. just send me a flee copy. "countdown" bin lauden, chris wallace's new book. available shortly. i believe. >> no, it is ready right now in bookstores, in amazon. you can buy it today. yes, you will get a free copy. stuart: what a guy. chris wallace, you're all right. see you soon. >> thank you, my friend. stuart: new poll shows many americans think september 11th has changed how we live in america today. lauren, you looked at the poll. give me the numbers. lauren: 64% say 9/11 permanently changed how we live more than covid-19 has. 65% say policies implemented like airport security screenings make the u.s. safer. i want to point out, look at that date. this poll was taken august 7th