it over the line. >> two feet up. >> two feet up. >> if we marked the walls, we would have showed abcd we would have found the same locations and found the same results. >> did you take measurements at the base of the wall. >> no, you have to take them up a little bit because of obstructions along the wall we can take hundreds of measurements around the wall it's a sample it's subjective you shouldn't do this purposely, you can take your measurements as close and high up as you could, and have bowing measurements there, we marked the wall and gave it a label. we did produce. >> do you want to see his schematic, his survey is that what you are asking for, dmigs -- commissioner? >> obviously, we're here now, this is the opportunity to make that argument that is the crux of the -- i'm surprised it's not in there. i know the staff would even support this comment if they could get evidence of that sort if the actual wall is in the devisidaro property. >> do you have that survey with you? >> not in mine with me but in the packet we circled, where the wall is 11 hundredths over. >> the issue

certified, it shows the line over the wall as well when he made his measurements he didn't mark them as abcd, and mark them on the wall so we can locate the same exact point so when we're out there on the wall, it's not marked, we take it at the base and top we find the same issues portions of the wall are on over on the ground level. >> if we had evidence here and had gone to dbi and demonstrated that with the survey like the last surveyier, martin ron did, we wouldn't have this discussion, because the information that is in front of us surveyed states in your own package states it's not. i need to see -- my point is that the footings are not in the devisidaro street properties. i haven't seen any evidence in the package to demonstrate. other than you have done a survey that is not in the package, right? >> no i'm not explaining myself clearly, the decision was, the martin ron, survey itself we look at the martin ron survey for this location it shows it's over the line on the survey meaning, he himself is showing the wall over the line what is the necessity to show further when their own su

certified, it shows the line over the wall as well when he made his measurements he didn't mark them as abcd, and mark them on the wall so we can locate the same exact point so when we're out there on the wall, it's not marked, we take it at the base and top we find the same issues portions of the wall are on

>> you want to think about your abcd. a stands for asymmetry. b is border irregular later.e same lesion that's cause for concern. d is diameter. if it's larger than the size of a pencil eraser. we added an e. evolution or change. anytime you can detect a change within a mole, that's cause for concern. >> what do we do about son blocks? there's a lot of confusion. where the numbers stop. after 30 it doesn't work. this one works. children's work. waterproof is better. can you help us? >> it can get confusing. the word natural is simply not a priority when it comes to sunscreen. a lot of patients think natural is better. it's not. you want to look for physical blockers like zinc oxide or titanium dieoxidedioxide. >> and reapply every hour? >> oh, gosh. >> every two hours unless you go swimming or sweat. in which case you amore often. >> people think one and done. no, you have to it going. >> thank you. >>> also in our "heat index" actress portia de rossi speaking out about her struggle with an eating disorder. the "scandal" star revealing the trouble started when she was 1 yea

. >> when it comes to early detection and melanoma, you want to think about your abcds.ame lesion, that's cause for concern. d is diameter. if it's larger than the size of a pencil eraser. but don't forget. we added an e. it's probably the most important. it stands for evolution or change. anytime you can detect a change within a mole, that's cause for concern. >> so what do we do about sunblocks? there's a lot of confusion. where the numbers stop. after 30 it doesn't work. this one works. children's work. waterproof is better. can you please help us with that? >> it can get confusing. one thing to recognize is that the word natural is simply not a priority when it comes to sunscreen. a lot of patients think natural is better. it's not. you want to look for physical blockers like zinc oxide or titanium dioxide. but you also want to look for them in combination with chemical sunscreen ingredients. it's really the combination of the two that gives the most effective coverage. >> and reapply every hour? >> oh, gosh. >> every two hours unless you go swimming or sweat. in whi