to discuss the operation to liberate iraq let's bring in syria expert abdel bari atwan have to thank you very much indeed for joining us i mean this liberation it was never going to be easy but do you think it could have come with less civilian cost oh yeah definitely i believe you know we were we used to act use it's a mixed state or ice's as a barbaric organization killing people frightening there but what happened actually with when we look at that you're under report it is clear that the coalition forces all those use the maximum of powers which resulted on by this traction of that city so you know it's thousands of people civilian people were killed because of this bombardment and nobody raised to think about that so it is it is at the zionists are definitely this kind of achievement can be done without the suffering without the amounts of death among the people over break up less destruction also i don't know why this warplane used to bomb into civilian areas and killing people and destroying the best city and we can see that our bill is everywhere nor we can see that damages a

i'm joined by the arab writer and author, abdel bari atwan. thank you for being with us.s. it is an historic agreement. it is actually making meli palestinians smile because it was a very depressed situation —— many palestinians. hamas were gambling on the peace progress that was not working and there is no peace process and no one state solution. both of them need each other, with both of them trying to buy time. there are no other options. hamas is facing a crisis and they cannot meet the demands of people. akbas, his population is going down and down, so what is the morning after? what are we going to do? the terms of this reconciliation is extremely difficult for both of them to abide by. for example, forming a national unity government, calling for a parliamentarian election, what is the action of the israelis? what is the reaction there? let's talk about the reaction from israel in particular. are they worried that the two rivals are coming together and, theoretically will be stronger in the rabusic —— representation of the palestinian cause? i am not worried about