in 2005, abdul was admitted to al qaeda's shur council and he was invited to come in. on november 16, 2008, a chinese citizen took -- was appointed by only as a leader of two organizations, al qaeda in china and islam and also confirmed by abdul sulemam. the detainees held at guantanamo bay are affiliated with the group. according to the detainees' sworn statement, many acknowledge they had trained at an etim training camp from june to november, 2001 and several confirm that the camp was run by abdul. . following the u.s. invasion of afghanistan in 2001, it's clear that involvement between etim and taliban increased. the leader was hasan mossam who led his men to support taliban and fight alongside them against the u.s. and coalition forces. on october 2, 2003, hasan mossam was killed by a pakistani army raid in south waziristan area of pakistan. additionally in 2008 al qaeda in afghanistan publication titled, quote, martyrs in times of alienation, end of quote, identified 120 martyrs, including five members who trained in tora bora who fought with the taliban in afgha

another wiretapped phone call included abdul rack mad, holly land -- holy land foundation representative, referred to a suicide bombing as a beautiful operation. according to a national review article, in the precare days both awad and ahmad were top officers in the islamic association for palestine. former f.b.i. counterterrorism chief has called awad's former employee the islamic association for palestinian quote, a front organization for hamas that engages in propaganda for islamic militants, end of quote. a september 24, 2001, l.a. story described the connection between the islamic association of palestine and the holy land foundation this way, quote, the i.a.p. and the holy land were founded and funded by mazuk, he's also the political leader of the terrorist group, hamas. andrew mccarthy, a former federal prosecutor who led the 1995 prosecution against shake omar abdul rahman, the blind sikh, found guilty of the 1993 world trade center bombing in an article notes there are several persons connected to care who have been convicted of federal felonies, including terrorism, end of quo

newsday and the buffalo news reported in they the 1995 trial of omar abdul rahman, the master mind of the 1993 world trade center bombing, terrorist confederates were planning to break him out of attica state prison in new york. an appeals court brief for the trial detailed the lengths al qaeda operatives would go to to break out of prison. their appeals court brief states, and i quote, mohammed sahid later described to selim a plan to break sayir out of jail he surmised if he and salim or others could get jobs with contractors providing the prison with sanitation or food service and if nasir could get a prison job that would situate him in the appropriate area they might be able to snatch him and hide him in a nearby apartment until it was safe to move him. the brief goes on to discuss several conversations his friends had with him while he was in attica. it talks about plans to murder someone who antagonized his supporters during the trial as well as the trial judge. . i quote, the four-hour meetings in the visiting rooms during which nasir railed at the evils of the united states a

of those like kareem abdul-jabbar, those like timothy duncan, those like sydney port yea, those like -- sydney portier and of course colin powell, the former secretary of state, a caribbean american. certainly the honorable cheryly chiss am who ran as an african-american woman for president of the united states of america. bold, unashamed of their roots and history, ready to make a difference, that is the character of caribbean americans and those who live in the caribbean. let me also thank john conyers who i worked with as we visited haiti and went to see many of those who have been incarcerated because of the, if you will, the inconsistency of leadership in haiti. we are delighted to see the president leading out but we visited many who were political prisoners and worked with the then bush administration to try to secure their freedom. i went to -- i want to continue to express my appreciation to chairman conyers for the work that he has continuously done working in haiti when we traveled there together. so there are many aspects of the caribbean that we can celebrate. i'm here t

there was a red mosque run by this very charismatic set of brothers named abdul aziz and ghazi was the younger and ran the religious side. to get and i needed introduction and thought the introduction, the guy that interest me was the same individual, a close friend of osama bin laden. and the first -- >> host: you're talking to someone who is a close friend of osama bin laden. you're father is aryan corps general officer. your brother was fighting in afghanistan at the time i believe. iraq, and a marine corps uniform. so this is a serious risk taking on your part. >> guest: yet, it raised all sort of moral -- it brought me to a moral and pass more than once, like you said you have to empathize or you will never be allowed in. you have to show a sincere interest. the understanding interest and when someone is trying to come in and get a quote. and i was able to successfully convey i was interested in understanding more about what they were thinking, more about their movement, more about their grievances were over the pakistani state, etc.. so this individual was very close with osama.

. >> guest: the first thing is we were talking last time about abdul aziz ghazi. after he died he'd been my introduction to all of these and after ghazi died i wrote a piece titled farewell my jihadi friend, which was sort of a single off to this guy who helped at a complex time in my life. the article was published in urdo so even though he had been killed there was still this article i could show to various jihadis and say look, i had a role in his life. >> host: let me just say you knew what was going on because you took the trouble to learn urdo so you were not just a typical journalist relying on a translator, you were in the thick of things and knew what was being said. >> guest: right. it became more complex in the northwest province because i didn't speak pashtun zero. i wanted to visit the taliban and swat that had taken over in the summer of 2007 shortly after the red tosk. they started a series of suicide bombings on the government and set up a sort of islamic state in swat. so to get there and needed a sort of introduction and there was a local journal