there are 38,800 articles on abdul hakeem muhammed as of last december. it came back because it was a criminal act, now what we're hearing is the president might overturn or veto the national defense authorization act because of the little rock purple heart issue, one of the reasons. they're saying because arkansas tried him under a criminal law, not terrorism. you were the governor of arkansas, arkansas does not have any statutes relating to terrorism. that is a federal province. >> absolutely. >> for them to sit there and turn around -- i was told by a person in the know back in 2010 that some people think this is the way to go. yeah. it's the way to go if you want to bury something. we received a letter from the president of the united states on the fifth of june of 2009 giving us a letter of condolences. a letter of condolences do not go to murder victims who are soldiers in the united states. they go to war dead. we got a personal phone call from the president on the 11th, and then things started going downhill. we met with the -- with the u.s. attor