abdullah, abdullah the former foreign minister here's that interview. >> talks about the negotiationse taliban. if the people (indiscernible) what is going on or not going on and what will be the state as it develops. that has created apathy, confusion among the people. >> so it seems to have had a negative effect even the hope of negotiations? >> because the message is very confusing here in kabul as well as giving. the taliban are emboldened they think this is a sign of weakness. those who want the taliban to stand up the majority of the people absolute majority of the people they are resentful. >> if the west continues for example to build schools for children to encourage universal sufficient raj in terms of the right to vote democratic elected government and all of the rest how can that coexist with taliban in the government. they don't want girls in school. >> the two things ideology of taliban and democracy, they both go together at any stage. it doesn't match in any case. so the consolation process has to b a transparent one so people should know that what we are talking about

his name is abdullah, and i want to let him know, as he knows, as he is concerned about my heart, he said, "take care for him." mr. president, from san francisco to the white house, i would like to tell you, and i tell your people, thank you very much for calling to me. i am still here.

his name is abdullah, and i want to let him know, as he knows, as he is concerned about my heart, he said, "take care for him." mr. president, from san francisco to the white house, i would like to tell you, and i tell your people, thank you very much for calling to me. i am still here. i am going to be here friday. at least i can give my voice as i give him the board. we have done what ever we can. now we have the president, the first african president in the history of the united states. now, we are going also to have history -- supervisor chiu: 90 very much. -- thank you very much. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors. stop the corporate rate of public library. do not give or accept money from the friends and family foundation. they have more to do with then just the library. private money is raised from those who will pay to maintain the class barriers for themselves. those who raise private money are peddling influence in vanity to those who cannot get it any other way. that is what the influence of private money always depends of on line but -- lies and secrecy. is impo

[speaking foreign language] ladies and gentlemen, my name, as you know, abdullah. i am here to open your eyes for the manager letter he give many of us, one copy here, one to my neighbor. he ask him to pay $1,100. the gentleman, he have 81 years. another letter to my neighbor, virginia. she's 85 years. he ask her to pay $671. another one, he owe them or he said he owe them over $1,000. another neighbor, and myself finally, he ask us to pay him money for what? i pay my rent. they pay their rent. something's wrong. somebody taking -- i must have courage to wake him up, not only him but the people here who are with him. i say it before, i say it again. you're never going to be the god of my building and you never give us paper as harassment. we have rights to sue the city, to hire some people like you. we want to know why you charge us for all this money. if you try to come out of, i have right to take it to courts and i have rights as i did before to -- as all the people in my building. i would like to tell to my friend, happy birthday. president chiu: thank you. nex

king abdullah, his majesty, can have a very significant role in this whole exercise. that's what we have been trying for a long time now. >> larry: it inevitable that the taliban will have to be allowed some way back into the government? >> well, they're afghans and they're part of this country, accepting the afghan cost institution, accepting the programs we have made so many years in the past, the journey we have traveled towards a better, more economically well-off, viable afghanistan. in that context, any afghan is welcome. this country belongs to all afghans and the system that we have established, the system of governance that we have established in the past eight years is one that is inclusive of all afghans. in other words, afghanistan is once again the home for all afghans and the taliban as afghans are welcome. >> larry: do we know how many al qaeda members are actually in afghanistan? and what are the dangers of them regrouping when the united states leaves? >> al qaeda is a threat, of course, a terrorist threat to all of us. someday they may be a threat to

. >> rose: if you go to the saudis, to the royal family and king abdullah head of the interior minister and the rest of them and say "here is the evidence that money by one of your citizens, one of your... maybe somebody you know well is getting in the hands of al qaeda" are they responsive in your experience and do they act on it to shut it down? >> yes. and i think that's something we have worked on very, very hard over the last few years and i don't say that lately but we have developed a good relationship when it comes to al qaeda. not just on the operational side which we had for a number of years. for a number of years the situation was that that they were working very hard on the prevention of attacks and they view viewed potential attacks in saudi arabia which is one of the major targets of kaeltd and they attempted an assassination... you talk about the interior minister, they talked about the assassination of mohammed binnai in charge of counterterrorism in saudi arabia. but what has... what we've been very successful in in the last couple years is developing a good partnershi

doubt, christiane and i think all along if you listen to the leaders in the middle east like king abdullah, a great friend who would say what it will take to rule iraq will be a strong government, a strong man hopefully not like saddam but someone that can keep those factions apart. >> and in afghanistan, again, one of the things that they're trying to emulate is to bring the talibaning, and try to do it with the sunnis in iraq. what do you think of bringing the taliban in? do you think negotiations will work. >> i think that we've got to be very careful. i believe that the afghanistan people will be very, very concerned and we see reports now that warlords are even starting to get concerned about how much control of the taliban they will have. the trying to strike some type of agreement with them i think is a reasonable course of action but karzai's government has got to remain in charge and governing that country. >> how long do you think it will take? obviously much publicity and much attention about president obama's summertime 2011 withdrawal or drawdown. do you think that's possible?

abdullah abdullah lead the no. alliance. he said to me, d you really think that the taliban, which is committed to a worldwide islamic caliphate, committed to obliterating the rights of women, ordinary individuals, is going to negotiate with a government that it believes is an infidel? the mindset, i am trying to ask you, that they're no meaningful talks going on right now. do you think that there is any space for this idea to germinate? >> first of all, there is space for this idea to germinate. secondly, your question implies a partial solution. and i want to go back -- general petreaus and i talk about this a lot. he went through something similar in iraq. there are groups out there which switched allegiances. they will fight against foreigners, then allied themselves with the foreigners. that also happened in iraq. some of these groups are simply defending the valley they have lived in for century against the latest the external threat. the distinction you made between reconcilable an irreconcilable is a well-known disti

this blast happened at a shrine of abdullah shah hazii, a mystical form of islam. these blasts occurred close to the president's house which is called a lallal house, about 1 mile away and close to the sea south in karachi. this blast has hallmarks of the taliban which has previously attacks shrines in lahor in pakistan in which 30 were killed and over 100 injured. we don't have information now if these were suicide blasts or remote controlled detonations but we'll be getting it shortly. jenna: we're working on getting pictures into this newsroom. as soon as we get it, we'll share it about our viewers. sid caiffe, thank you very much. jon: a nightmare scenario for the u.s. banking system and the national economy, a foreclosure freeze in some two dozen states threatens to spread, fueled by judges who are stepping n. ruling that lenders have no right to toss homeowners to the curb without the proper paperwork, this as the justice department starts to look into the foreclosure mess. top democrats on capitol hill say they want hearings and mortgage rates just hit recor

resolution for instance, the original partner of the united states was the northern alliance and of tuleh abdullah was leading that or he was dead by that time i main post 9/11 he led the northern alliance and said th do you really think that the taliban that was committed to obliterating the rights of women and ordinary individuals will negotiate with a government it believes his infidel six cetera so the mine said to i am trying to ask you maybe there are no meaningful talks going on right now but is there any space for this idea to germinate? >> first of all, there is space for the 80th to terminate. second, your question implies a partial solution. general petraeus and i talk about this a lot because he would do something similar in iraq and there are groups out there which switch allegiances they will fight against foreigners and align themselves with the foreigners in that also happened in iraq although the situation was very different. some of them are defending the valley they have lived in for centuries. the change restrain it reconcilable a irrencilable start with al qaeda it is not poss