especially citywide has been such abegg support for me. -- big support for me. now recovery looks like to me, going to my groups and weekly check-ins with people, using my phone when i need to. and also meditation. a bunch of different things that kind of contributed to my recovery. and especially my jobs have been so essential in me progressing. the warm line and the mental health association, you know, trains us so well. it's just a job of giving back all the time. so it's great. >> great. keep up the great work. >> thank you. >> staff, are there any comments or questions? >> yeah. through the chair. jorge, hello. you shared with me at the break how nervous you are and you have nothing to be nervous about. everybody really felt your story. so i have a couple questions for you. were you, in your experience in the jail population, did you run into people that you thought had an undiagnosed mental illness? >> yeah. >> and how long -- you shared that you were basically 15 when you had your first contact? >> yeah. >> how long did it take to get from the age of 15 t