abner smith made that point in "the theory of moral sentiments," right, when you see someone about it somebody you go oh, but the minute they hit the first person cries out you go -- cc crying a little, little bit too much? like human nature. it's a really good point but a thing to me the problem is the focus of suffering as opposed to the focus on solidarity and coalition building, as thomas said, and the idea that there is a political realm, a public realm be on our personal private striving that matters more than what is in each individual person's heart and that is the thing i think we lost in america. we lost a sense of the public, since that there's a place beyond our individual needs and beyond our individual scope that matters that's worth like not insulting someone on twitter because what if you could find something in common with them and actually create a larger coalition that is actually multiracial and just i think thomas has really open our eyes to what the polling shows, , whh is that a lot of the woke ideology is very foreign to working-class people of all races includ