she is the 2013 abolitionist award for providing exemplary services, -- em. (applause) we also together in collaboration with the status of women, with supervisors, department heads, the human rights commission we wanted to make sure that future generations of children are part of the solution. in that effort both in advocacy we have a strong, strong goal of educating our public and all the other kids and families in our city. this is a way of our quality of life, we cannot accept human trafficking. part of the way to do that is to have this be part of the kids education, and push strongly. the collaborative this year, allow the youth of san francisco to enter in a poster contest to provide artistic ability to the messaging of this really important movement. the 2013 poster contest winners i get to announce. i will begin with third-place winners. the third-place winner, first one eighth-grade student, from james brannan middle school. shelley lu (sounds like) apl(applause) also an eighth-grade student from james dunham as well, stella lee. thank you. apl(appl

so in terms of the growth of that abolitionist press and the abolitionists send people just to keep an eye on the tyler white house and report back on things like this. that what julia is doing is in fact in some quarters very different to that broader image while in other quarters, it's very beneficial to supporting the idea of the impeer presidency. >> here's what to an certain extent she redeems herself when she responds to the duchess of southerland, who criticized slavery in america. she writes a letter back and says pretty much, you need to take care of business at home. you've got people from the lower classes there are who starving. so she doesn't say slavery is right. but she does imply that slavery is not as bad as what's happening. >> joe in pennsylvania, you're on for our panel. go on, please. >> hi, i love your series. >> what's your question? >> i read somewhere john tyler played the violin and did any of his wives play any musical instrument? >> thank you. do we know. >> i haven't the faintest clue. he certainly played the vial anne and if you go to sherwood forest, you

it is so easy to let the abolitionists and to identify with them. it is really, really not easy to like people like john c. calhoun . or to even understand them or even harder for me of a group of other politicians called the bill faces. >> the doe face. >> there were people like james you can, the only president from my state of pennsylvania, i said to say, who utterly -- northerners to utterly sympathize with the south. north as you thought slavery was okay or maybe even good. it was really hard to get into the minds of those people. but we live in a time now when certain things are completely unacceptable and people did not feel that way about and then. so there is -- it is hard to do, but is ultimately necessary to try and take people on their own terms. that said, you know, i don't know they necessarily have to present a story completely evenly. i think you can craft a narrative so that your political views are apparent to the reader. i think trying to obscure your political views is not necessarily the most ethical thing to do necessarily. so,

it affected the abolitionists in boston and so forth. and so when -- i had to pause for a long time. in fact, it took me three long days after elijah's birth before i actually named him elijah, after elijah lovejoy. it's a hard thing to name your son after someone who was martyred. but i wanted to -- when i say my son's name, i wanted to remember that change is possible. that when you stand up and do the right thing and ask for something to be redesigned, that that's a noble and right thing. >> but here's what you're up against. the energy industry very easily got a loophole placed in federal legislation just a few years ago which exempts fracking from many of the country's major -- >> yes. >> -- environmental protection laws, including the safe drinking water act. is that correct? >> that's right. >> so what does that tell you? >> well, what it means is that it's an outlaw enterprise. that it has succeeded in exempting itself from our nation's foremost environmental laws so our federal government doesn't have much control or power over

and abolitionists went even further and the slave trade in the district of columbia has got to be ended. tourists come here, foreign dignitaries for those to be bought and sold. we have to stop it in robert toombs of georgia said this is treating the south as though we're not part of the government. so we have to do what you want us to do. and you don't recognize that our way of life would be jeopardized. so we will leave. mississippi passed a resolution calling on all the southern states to meet in convention in asheville tennessee with the first monday of june 1850 and they are setting up the machinery to take the south out of the union. think of how desperate they were. that is why we were really fortunate to have a man like henry clay in the house, in the senate actually, the speaker who had the vision and the determination and the love of this country to keep it together to try to work out a compromise. knowing that what you have to do is one for you and one for you and back-and-forth. it has got to be important to enough for both sides to say for me to get what i'd not need. the p

>> what was gaining is the abolitionist movement. they were part of that movement and were also feminist. it was not peculiar to see women with opinions. theow did the ladies in administrations deal with the panic of 1837? >> very well. >> last question. caller: yes, my quick question is that i heard that the burens -- what president family spoke foreign language in the white house, and the answer is the family of martin van buren's. >> i do not believe that his children did. i doubt he spoke dutch in the white house. by the time he went into his retirement, he went to the countryside to speak with the people who spoke dutch. the dutch in the hudson valley began to die out. >> what happens next? >> he goes home. whitet happens in the house? >> the war hero, harrison, comes in and unfortunately pneumonia during his inauguration and dies. >> it sets the stage for a very interesting conversation on our next program of "first ladies." thank you for being here tonight to talk us through 12 years of a changing country and the presidents an

so in terms of the growth of that abolitionist press and the abolitionists send people just to keep an on the tyler white house and report back on things like this. that what julia is doing is in fact in some quarters very different to that broader image while in other quarters, it's very beneficial to supporting the idea of the presidency. >> here's what to an certain extent she redeems herself when she responds to the duchess of sutherland, who criticized slavery in america. she writes a letter back and says pretty much, you need to take care of business at home. you've got people from the lower classes there are who starving. so she doesn't say slavery is right. but she does imply that slavery is not as bad as what's happening. >> joe in pennsylvania, you're on for our panel. go on, please. >> hi, i love your series. >> what's your question? >> i read somewhere john tyler played the violin and did any of his wives play any musical instrument? >> thank you. do we know. >> i haven't the faintest clue. he certainly played the vial anne and if you go to sherwood forest, you can see the

a lot of time telling the students about the history of the republican party highlighting it's abolitionistslamming mandatory minimum drug sentences saying that basically they are the new jim crow. this was not maybe the best performance but it's interesting to see that the outreach that the republican party wants to demonstrate, they're walking the walk. >> well, in a way. i think he got a lot of credit for showing up. look, it isn't sort of traditional for republicans to go to a venue like howard university, but ken mehlman did it in the past. it's been tried before. and rand paul certainly doesn't want to take advice in me, but you probably don't want to do a historically black college and do a 20 minute lecture on black history. you probably don't want to try to argue that the 19th century republican party of the liberal lincoln abolitionist is the same as the post-1968 party that most african-americans currently know for things like voter i.d. he didn't make that connection and he troo i had to say the parties were the same when pretty much everybody knows they're not. >> so the republ

>> no, it's what people do in our own lives, like william wilburforce, led the abolitionists, but it wasn't the parliamentarians, it was the movement that swept the country. i've got dads, moms, parents, and i'm a little league baseball coach. those kind of life choices are what build social movements and that's the only thing that ever changes politics. what we do in our own lives is what the book is about and how that can change politics and culture and just the, the first sentence of the book ss, our life togethercane better. and that's the hunger i think people are feeling now. >> jim, just very briefly. you've been talking about some of these ideas for a long time. other people have been talking about the common good, what makes you think things are different now, that there's a new receptivity now? >> well first of all, watching the political narrative at night after being all day on sabbatical i took quiet and reflection and study and writing, the more i watched it at night, i wasn't engaging in it, the more depressing it was, polarized, paralyzed, hate, fear, nger. we've lost

asngs had become iffier abolitionists sentiment grew. it became less and less possible to bring slaves their throughies -- territories. >> as jackson wins the election, tell us the story of his inaugural party. >> he has the inauguration. he rides on horseback back to the president's house. the public is invited. there are about 20,000 people who had attended the inauguration. the house is open to the public.

brings together all of these elements if they are terrorist is an abolitionist fantasies you have isn't that was while the fairest advisor to the anti-terrorism caucus for united states congress now for more on the origins of the suspects family and the history of chechnya for those of you who don't know it i was joined earlier by john guy doc he's a president of the arch angels rope an artist's caution included a quick history lesson of chechnya and the western misconceptions of that russian region but one of the persons i think in the western world need to understand is that chechnya is a part of russia certainly going back to sixteen six people russia has been attempting to worst war stretch into then czars russia as part of the soviet union couldn't be part of the russian federation and that connection of themselves originally began with an independence oriented effort with regard to the resistance to the russian federation the soviet union collapsed they certainly thought that was their opportunity russia's war are you keep in the russian federation and it wasn't until early one ni

people i would consider to be greater than lincoln was the abolitionist who pushed emancipation.he end lincoln was a great president. the emancipation is something to be very proud of. i think our history books, all the description of abolitionists were zealots and crazy and it's a lot more complicated than that a lot of fog the battle for 30 some years. i think the abolitionists deserve more credit than they are given. >> i just wanted to go back to your concern that the whole thing was for trade -- and exception was many points were pretty good but there was that moment where you seem to be assuming the students knew about history. is that an accurate assumption? >> no one i think that was misreported. i simply said something and it was something that i was asking a question. i didn't know the answer. this is my first time to go to a historical black college so i asked them people said you should know the answer but that's part of the reason we were going there is that i didn't know the answer. i said did they know that the naacp was founded by republicans and in retrospect it

early private life despite her family's disapproval and she went on to be an early feminist and abolitionist and influence nast in his 20s. one of these things you see defending friedman is the implements of this woman that his wife disapproved of but who was strong-willed and were lifelong friends of mr. nast and made all these points about equality and justice. that horse i assume you know the gym at the bottom another client of james redpath. mark twain was part of a wide network of humorous and the two men constantly send each other funny letters. twain went on to higher nast's biographer his own biography and initiated a friendship. the twain papers as we know them or produce by albert bigelow paine whose came to no twain through nast and that worst nast was u.s. grant. in some ways grand is the most important influence on nast aside from his wife sally. the cartoon was idealized. he loved general grant and helped get him elected president twice. nast goes to the white house but he also had a true and tender affection for granted as a man and they occasionally entertain one another so p

charles sumner, the abolitionists from massachusetts said a poll significance loyal to his party cannotrusted. i'm out there. i will talk obama for mdaa. i will talk obama for the patriot act for the visa courts and going after whistle belowers, for putting bradley manning in jail forever possibly possibly. so the he is peen espionage act has been used by president obama more. the last seven presidents combined used it less. >> i don't find it liberal but mainstream. but the robin hood tax of less than 1% on each transaction. >> half a percent would raise $180 billion minimum on wall street transactions. we would get the biggest share that have money would come to new york because it comes from new york. so we would have a federal law guys like the goldman sachs crew can't go to california. in europe they're going to pass it any day now. we could raise money and underwrite what goes on in this city. we have tons of people who are unemployed. 60% of black youth unemployed. >> john: it seems like a very mild form of austerity for those who could afford austerity. you said something bringi

you can be a courageous abortion abolitionist maybe not as crazy as i am the you can still do that by simply talking about the issue. i am unapologetically antiabortion. i am against abortion. it is a human rights violation. we know this generation is pro-life. americans today more than ever before denounce abortion. don't be afraid to talk about this. questions? [applause] >> we have emily holding the microphones. >> questions? >> that was a great speech. looking at a younger generation do you see it growing in minorities and other demographics? ico lot of young white women but is it getting out to african-americans or hispanics or asians? remake the polls are across the board and across racial lines for it is fascinating especially in the african-american community it disproportionately placed their community they make up 13% get 36 percent of all abortions are performed with african-american women. the majority of abortion facilities located in urban african-american or hispanic neighboan african-american or hispanic neighborhoods are next to a college campus. you are right. intere

you can be a courageous abortion abolitionist. you won't be as crazy as i am but you can still do that simply by talking about the issue. i am unapologetically antiabortion. i am against abortion. it is a human rights violation. we know this generation is pro-life. we know that. we know americans today, more than ever before, denounce abortion. don't be afraid to talk about. don't be afraid to listen to people's stories. questions? [applause] >> good story, good story. if you would raise your hand, give your name and your affiliation. and we have emily riley, an intern, and emily jones, an intern from georgia tech. i will let you call on people. >> questions? >> that was a great speech. so looking at the younger generation, d.c. a growing in my in other words, and other demographics? a lot of times i see there's a you lot of young white women but i'm wondering if is getting out to african-americans, hispanics, asian? >> this poll is across the board, across racial lines. it's really fascinating, especially in african-american comm

you can be a courageous abortion abolitionist. you will be as crazy as i am, what you can still do that just by simply talking about the issue. i am unapologetically anti-abortion. i am against abortion. as a human rights violation. we know this generation is pro-life. we know that. amino americans today, more than ever before denounce abortion. don't be afraid to talk about it. don't be afraid to listen to people stories. questions? [applause] >> if you would -- its excellent good stories. stories. you're so right about that. if you would raise your hand or give your name and affiliation. we have -- up, we have emily rice. internet please. we have emily jones to mention that loose from georgia tech. holding the microphone. i will let you call on people. >> that's fine. >> questions. >> i was a great speech. so, looking at the average generation against abortion, the seed growing in minorities and other demographics? a lot of times -- i see it as a lot of young white women, but i am wondering if it is getting out african-americans

for the goose -- >> it is kind of like this same thing that evolutionists were wrong for being abolitionists. what they were doing was stealing property. >> john: they were hurting prophets. i agree that family is off-limits unless you're bristol palin and getting paid a lot of money as a single teen mom to preach abstinence. it is confederate history month we're glorify the right to take away the rights of others. that's in the f bomb. thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. >> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." one more quick question for my guests. april is confederate history month. how do you plan on celebrating blond white woman? >> i'm going to celebrate the fact that they lost. they lost big-time. >> john: you're from kansas. thank you jennifer rawlings. >> i'm saving myself for nazi history month. saddam hussein history month and other losers. >> john: leighann lord, how are you celebrating confederate month? >> road trip. >> john: you know, it brings me to tonight's f bomb b

doom the boxer was named a and an ardent which makes it interesting for me where he became the abolitionist. his connection is he was the player of lincoln's party and abraham lincoln appointed to an to reach him as the ann was taking a break and he did whatever he could to keep russia on this side of the union. because it becomes a world war. britain and france sided with the south and they set up new trips to canada in case fighting broke out but the russians send a fleet to new york and another to san francisco. they did this because they oppose anything but cassius clay was a colorful figure and hooked up but they had to defend themselves. and as i said it is safe as senior with those others that he spends time with at the imperial corporation. a couple more possibilities. >> i love fredericks period in chicago and what intrigued me was here we are in winnetka. >> but he strikes me as a person who would look around. my gut tells me he probably was in at some point* during the chicago stadium interesting the very successful families from the chicago area many from winnetka and i wonder i

it she used to refer to one as that abolitionist sneak. earlier. ironically, obtaining their goal. once they moved into the white house. move that today, it diminished. i think the partnership was in some ways broken. was a source of frustration. the relationship that they had had before the presidency was in some way greatly diminished. i do not think that she was significantly influential in terms of shaping public policy or the conduct of the war or even who he voted as cabinet. >> we have only eight minutes left and still a lot of stories to tell. she lived years after the assassination. what were those years like a >> part of the time, she was in a mental institution because her son robert put her there, and i have been debating about him way she feltut the he had been disloyal to her and how she -- he was able to control her money and become, i guess, the executor of it. she had to struggle, but she who could helple her, and i thought that was admirable, even with your problems, that she was able to do that. >> she did something. and was obsessed with money, at one point, she

one of her best friends and buffalo was the most prominent abolitionist there, george washington johnson. >> tell us about abigail fillmore's legacy. >> learning and literacy. books. >> and the fact that she might have influenced literacy by being a working woman. >> yeah. careers for women. >> sadly, she dies very shortly after, and her daughter dies two years later. i can only say that there is no documentary evidence whatsoever that she advised fillmore not to sign the fugitive slave law. people like to throw this out there because they want to enhance people's reputations, but there is not any evidence whatsoever. >> abigail fillmore died in the famous willard hotel just very shortly after the inauguration of their successor, franklin pierce. name was tually pierce.ction, g and so we will tweestion for suk wh with the pierce adstonthanks to both of our gues for being here and our thafpks hi thel association for their help throughout this series. dd [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013]

one of her best friends and buffalo was the most prominent abolitionist there, george washington johnson. tell us about abigail fillmore's legacy. >> learning and literacy. >> and the fact that she might have influenced literacy by being a working woman. shortly, she dies very after, and her daughter dies two years later. i can only say that there is no documentary evidence whatsoever that she advised fillmore not to sign the fugitive slave law.

that would be the abolitionists who pushed him toward and anticipation. in the in he was a great president. be very proudg to of for him and for the republican party. i grew up reading all the descriptions. it was crazy. it is a lot more complicated than that. i think the abolitionists deserve more credit than they are given. >> i am sensitive to your concern that the whole thing was portrayed negatively. i do not think it was. there was the moment where you seem to be assuming that students do not know something about history. is that accurate? >> that was misreported. . simply said something out asking a question. i sit do you know. tos is my first time to go this historical college. people say you should know the answer. that is why i was going. we do not know the answer. the naacp was founded by republicans. it is a dumb question. republicans and nothing going to power for 20 years. iybe by going there learned something. everybody their nose. here is a good question for you. this is where i think it is unfair. take a poll. war started after 9/11 they

i'm happy the abolitionist triumphed, also. it was the first issue discussed in the constitutional convention in 1789, when they wrote the constitution. the civil war to end it. we have to have a longer-term view of history to see the impact of social movements. do you know what else? it is hard to think that the people who were opposed to the war in iraq in 2003 got it wrong. eirean, it seems like th judgment turned out to be better than some of the armchair strategists who were ready to weigh in and say this would take a very short time and be very easy. it's hard to make change. host: our guest is david miers, professor of sociology and political science. as we take your calls and comments about the role of protest groups in the political conversation. another half an hour. here are the numbers -- 202-585- 3885 for republicans. 202-585-3886 for democrats, and independence and others -- 202- 585-3887. before we get back to calls, a much more modern, current issue, you write this week about same-sex marriage. in particular abo

it she used to refer to one as that abolitionist sneak. we talked earlier.day, it diminished. i think the partnership was in some ways broken. i think it was a source of frustration. the relationship that they had had before the presidency was in some way greatly diminished. i do not think that she was significantly influential in terms of shaping public policy or the conduct of the war or even who he voted as cabinet. >> we have only eight minutes left and still a lot of stories to tell. she lived years after the assassination. what were those years like a >> part of the time, she was in a mental institution because her son robert put her there, and i have been debating about him very much about the way she felt he had been disloyal to her and how he was able to control her money and become, i guess, the executor of it. she had to struggle, but she managed -- people who could help her, and i thought that was admirable, even with your problems, that she was able to do that. >> she did something. she was obsessed with money, and at one point, she moved to sel

they were not necessarily abolitionists, but they just didn't care one way or the other. it was not economically feasible there. on the eastern shore where there was still tobacco, slavery was in full force, and the eastern shore, of course, was very pro-south up to the civil war. >> something that i would add, it's kind of tangential to your question, but it's important. if you look at the statistics of what region of north america suffered the most raids during the war of 1812, it'll surprise you that a it was the chesapeake. and maryland suffered more than virginia. and the river suffered more than any part of maryland. and that was because there was so much raiding going up and down the river, also the potomac and other rivers. so many slaves would be taken off, so many hogs heads of tobacco were burnt, so many plantation homes were burnt that if you start looking at the newspaper ads in 1814, 1815, 1816, 1817, you see farm and plantation after farm and plantation that are for sale. and literally, the population of southern maryland decreased because of all of the dep

then tea party were held in the church and in the 19th century, church members are active in the abolitionist movement. though old south church was closed pour more than a week following the explosions, their ministry remained open. this past sunday i attended an interfaith service jointly performed by old south church and other local religious institutions at the corner of boylston and berkeley streets, a flew blocks from the site of the bombings. i stood with hundreds of worshipers praying, singing, remembering. this perseverance and dedication to faith and community is why boston has not grown weary. it's why boston has not fainted. it is why boston is strong. reverend edgerton, thank you for the blessing, thank you for this blessing you brought to the senate today. i join you in praying for our hometown and for our nation as we face the challenges ahead. the qualities you and your church exemplify, the spirit of openness and inclusiveness, the power of healing and prayer, and the strength of community are what will bring boston through these difficult times. i am honored that you join us

defense don rumsfeld, you have frederick douglass, who was tortured and escaped and was great abolitionist and you have donald rumsfeld owning the very property where he was held, who is actually known for torture, when you talk about donald rumsfeld you talk about guantanamo and iraq. i say, what do you think about this? and a woman in the church said to me, i can't comment right now. we're in church. >> host: steve in seattle. we just have a few minutes left with our guest. go ahead. >> caller: thank you. i first want to express my deep gratitude and respect for amy's work and the work of your team. i've very grateful as a reasonable and thinking individual in america. just wanted to quickly ask, having just last evening seen the documentary, detropa, and being still moved by it today. after so many years dealing with the most difficult issues and most heart-wrenchinging of topics what are your sources of hope as you deal with looking deeper into these most difficult and challenging topics? >> guest: well, that's a really important issue, is how we draw hope. as i travel the country, i'm

is at the time and secretary of defense rooms held and he was tortured and escaped in a great abolitionistled owning that property where he was held who is known for torture when you talk about donald from spelled to talk about iraq, guantanamo and what you think? the women in parishioners said i cannot comment right now we are in church. >> host: just a few minutes left with our guest please go ahead. >> caller: first i want to express the gratitude of their work and as a reasonable and individual thinking i am glad for what you do. after seeing a the documentary with the most difficult issues and topics facing the nation where your sources for hope as you look at these topics? >> that is the important issue of how we draw hope and i am often concerned we have difficult issues to deal with. people will listen to democracy now will be overwhelmed but they draw hope from what they see. they're not the typical journalist. they are deeply engaged in their community. they'd only analyze the situation the talk about how they deal with the. when people take action that is what is great about the

it she used to refer to one as that abolitionist sneak. we talked earlier. ironically, obtaining their goal. once they moved into the white house. as we would move that today, it diminished. i think the partnership was in some ways broken. ofhink it was a source frustration. the relationship that they had had before the presidency was in some way greatly diminished. i do not think that she was significantly influential in terms of shaping public policy or the conduct of the war or even who he voted as cabinet. >> we have only eight minutes left and still a lot of stories to tell. she lived years after the assassination. what were those years like a >> part of the time, she was in a mental institution because her son robert put her there, and i have been debating about him very much about the way she felt he had been disloyal to her and how he was able to control her money and become, i guess, the executor of it. she had to struggle, but she managed -- people who could help her, and i thought that was admirable, even with your problems, that she was able to d

markey: many started here including the first one, the abolitionist movement.he health care started here. now it's national. the same thing has to happen. massachusetts has to be the leader. a lot of this is public education across the country. we have to make sure the nra is depending upon this issue dying. it's not going to. we have to make sure voices are heard. this is an ongoing public, political education process that activates our country some ultimately we implement this legislation. i hear the president. i hear joe biden those saying they are going to let this die. i think as each single day goes by, there's going to be razor blade arp edge is politically and we have to make sure people pay a price because ultimately, too many children are dying. too many adults dine in our country and we have to make sure we get our coalition have been working. i think we can turn around those shows. too many members in the vice like grip of the nra and they have to be basically pulled away from mitch mcconnell and republican leaders and told it's time for them to do

and it is the church that was so strong in the abolitionist vement that tried to bring about equal treatment. it was the church, not all churches because some -- there was prejudice, bias, bigotry in some churches, but those who truly understood the teachings of christ, stood so firmly and strongly against slavery. then 100 years later an ordained christian minister named martin luther king jr. fought for civil rights, but he did so as a complete pacifist. not advocating violence. and his efforts succeeded. and he freed up young little white boys like me who are christians to treat brothers and sisters of any race, any color, any creed his brothers and sisters. it's all part of our history. the good parts, bad parts we shouldn't try to rewrite history. you got to know where you came from. -- of boston, the people were excited to see the finish. race, the world famous boston marathon, so many friends of mine had dreamed to come run in the boston marathon. number of friends that have. it's a lot of excitement even in their exhaustion as they near the finish line. that's where cold-hearted, fil

i believe john quincy was a leading abolitionist and here we are following american history.hether it is the kkk doing their thing in the south today, the john birch society, the tea party now which is 97% caucasian, can we at least give abigail -- throw her a bouquet of roses and say that she might have influenced john quincy in terms of the color of a man's skin should not be placed -- >> john quincy lived with her until he was 11 years old. then he went to europe with john. she did not see him again until he was 17 or 18. so he became a man. >> under the tutelage of his father. >> but she was very influential in the first 11 years. i balk at this tendency to blame the mother every time something goes wrong with the children. circumstances happen. there are genes. there is possibly a genetic disposition to alcoholism in that family. abigail's brother died of it and there were apparently other family members. hervolution happened when children grew up. they grew up in wartime. that can be very damaging to children's psyches. >> the year 1800 was a very, very difficult year f

thing, you have people riding like harriet beecher stowe came down and remember she's the great abolitionistand she says who will do the work for us? and she has the same answers colin and he just loves carrying the wheel barrows and you go read some of her stuff and then one doctor came down and he actually said it got cold and people had malaria and she was just outrageous and she said malaria of the milder sort. [laughter] this goes on and on. there are so many people -- >> another parallel between southern california and hawaii is religious influence. certainly hawaii was the missionaries who arrived and they were bringing the word of god and the old saying is they came to do good and they did very well indeed and they ended up with much of the land. southern california i think is the same thing. >> also it is based on kind of a different mass making come slightly different because -- >> you can discover gold here or in los angeles it was really oral the big boom for southern california and began with those who endowed the library of this campus and then they came along and would sell yo

i'm very far to the abolitionists. they were the people who helped make the world that we live in and were pilloried and marginalized in their day but i was inevitably writing a great deal about people who defended slavery who i had contempt for inevitably. not the mid-19th century. this book is generated partly by the desire of the attempt against my nature to get into that to people who in the mid-19th century who thought slavery was the greatest thing in the world. they thought enslaving people was just fine and they thought it was principled. they thought it was moral. they thought it was part of the american dream and wanted to carry it all away to the west coast. we might ease of being in the capital of the confederate state of south carolina which had been developed by slave agriculture thanks to jefferson davis and allies of his who wanted that to come to pass. thankful that great debate of 1858 didn't happen. >> that's as his perfect segue to the question i'm going to ask which is how do you deal with this ide

so i think that, i think the abolitionists deserve more credit than they are given. >> tom horne spent i just want to go back to howard. i'm sensitive to your concern that the whole thing was portrayed negatively. i don't mean to suggest that. i think the reception was in many points pretty good. but there was that moment where you seem to be assuming to know something about history. is that accurate that you made some assumptions that turned out to be wrong? and what else be dished i think that was misreported. i simply said something and it was something that i was asking a question. i asked do you know, and i didn't know the answer. this was my first time to go to a historical black college, so i asked, and people said you should know the answer. that's part of the reason for going there is i did know the answer but i said did they all know the naacp was founded by republicans? and in retrospect it sounds like it is a dumb question but it's like republicans haven't been going to howard for 20 years so maybe i did learn something that i did learn that everybody there is no and i left

families constant struggle to succeed and excel against the backdrop of a tobacco plantation slavery abolitionists, the georgia men which is a term i found. they were the slave drivers who would take slaves from maryland and virginia and take them to the cotton plantations in the deep south. i covered the slave drivers too. the protections the families and the african-americans received in the civil war amendments to the constitution, the failure of the separate but equal approach to education and finally the civil rights movement and its achievement and what it did for african-americans. through this one exceptional family i've tried to narrate the story of race in america. thank you. [applause] see what we would like to do now is just opened up for questions from the audience and i'm simply going to take my privilege as moderator to ask one question of jim who started talking about the legacy and the giving voice to the african-american community going all the way back to the origins of slavery. one of the things i've been intrigued i is you are talking in this particular book and now a group of