but the sylvania abolitionist society is totally locked in to this battle. they are sort of taking their experience in ideals and principles as they formed them over the course of already a number of years in fighting against slavery and infighting to bring those principles and ideas to the national level. but yes, slavery is difficult to abolish everywhere in the united states. yes? --benjamin fragments role franklin's role. been given as much attention if benjamin franklin had not been the president of the society? prof. polgar: interesting question. there are two petitions from quaker yearly meetings that were also predicted -- also presented. these meetings have nothing to do with franklin. he did not sign the petition. sayhe one hand, you could his role was not necessary for them to be heard. however, his signature on that document acts to sort of signal the congress that these principles of the pennsylvania pennsylvania greater relevance. that is the role he played. that was a very important one in this attempt to sort of project withr national congrue

so the story really begins in the fall of 1859 in harpers ferry john brown in the abolitionist he is captured and executed but in charleston there was tremendous alarm over john brown rides gail slavery has existed for centuries as part of the african slave trade so a letter writer to the hometown paper said then he grows as a group of citizens or planners for may vigilance committee calling attention to the emissaries who come in various disguises in the pretext they combine the subtlety but where there is fear there is opportunity. one that fertilizes the soil so the moral of the john brown episode of as far as the radicals are concerned that the problem is one government with all these people we had a separate government of our own post office and military with executive control. of their own destinies would perish. know this is the property that there were men and women the best known was the patriarch that was basically agitating for secession for decades so i think to revive the role of his son but the oldest son but he controlled that with his political agenda so just a little

movement went on to become one of the most famous if not the most famous white male abolitionist in history. he was the founding editor of a periodical known as the liberator. and he also was involved in the founding of many of the principal and slavery societies that challenged slavery in 1830, 1840 and 1850s. and so this begins with a speech that he gave on independence day in 1829. and he gave the speech for the american colonization society and in 1820 the most prominent and powerful racial reform organization became the american colonization society, a society geared for ending free back black people back to africa. and thereby sort of encouraging the sort of gradual abolition of slavery and getting rid of those newly freed people and sending them back to africa. it was interesting for white. the time knew they had been hard geared against their will on shift and now the nation was talking about sending them back to africa on ships but this very prominent sort of organization was invited garrison to speak and their annual fundraising event in boston on independence day in 1829

lincoln was not an abolitionist. but, he was and-- as he insisted naturally antislavery. his deepening understanding of slavery in its full complexity as a moral, political and constitutional dilemma began in his childhood among the primitive baptist anti- slavery discontents in backwoods kentucky in indiana whose churches his parents attended. as a boy he wrote-- row down the mississippi river to new orleans where the open air emporium of slaves on a gaudy display shocked him. as a congressman, he lived in a boarding house known as abolition house. he experienced the invasion of slave catchers coming to seize one of the waiters as a fugitive slave. undoubtedly, lincoln knew the secret of the house where he lived across from the capital that it was a station in the underground railroad. he denounced the mexican war as fraudulently started and voted numerous times against the expansion of slavery in the new western territories that had been seized in the war. with the quiet assistance of the leading abolitionist in the congress he drafted a bill for a massive patient in th

abolitionists -- oliver lincoln for doing this. emancipation is happening at union army camps, wise lincoln resending these orders? he did not believe military commanders have the authority to that had ther effect of determining the long-term ownership of property. long-term, whether or not property rights would be voided. congress might have had authority in the commander-in-chief might have that authority, but a general, john see free modern david hunter, did not have that fremont and john c. david hunter, did not have that authority. for one thing, he has to keep his coalition together. the aftermath of fort sumter, lincoln enjoys broad support from basically all segments of northern society. democrats are on board and republicans are on board with the war effort. but again, quickly, it becomes clear that there are many democrats are republican to start saying, if this were becomes about anti-slavery, i will withdraw my support from the war. i no longer stand behind the government. there is a phrase that encapsulates this viewpo

they are fighting in an abolitionist war. you have to think of the context of the war -- after the defeat of the revolutions in europe anything 48, and looks like liberal republicanism is on the retreat worldwide, and americans see themselves as representatives of self-government in a world full of monarchies. they see what the stakes are. if this rebellion and allowed to succeed and destroy the united states, that self-government and small republicanism are going to be discredited worldwide. there is an idea about fidelity to the government of the founders and wanting to preserve the government drop fourth of the revolution. those are the ideas that animate most northerners when they start fighting, but eventually, a mastication becomes a tactic union uses to win the war, and eventually, abolitionist become an end in themselves. why does this happen? why during in the civil war for the first time in american history is the federal government take the side of slaves versus slaveholder? that is the question looking at today. f

i mistrust my own people more than i fear all the abolitionists. that is a u.s. marshall for the district of charleston. a u.s. marshall! but he is worried and the merchants in charleston are not so excited about secession. how is it a good business proposition for the union to be divided? they don't own all the slaves. they get goods on consignment and there is no sense of banking system but they are trading in notes and the banks can honor the paper currency and it feels like it is bad for business. what they really need is -- also, every revolutionary movement needs to manufacturing something someone the people can rally against. they had that person. lincoln. he enters the picture in 1860 in chicago in may. lots of favorites but lincoln is chosen as the moderator, really. but not the way it will be presented in charleston. lincoln had never stepped food -- foot in charleston. he is a blank state. time for fake news. a full grown abolitionist black as a charcoal, skounderly in aspects, after him what decent white man would be present? well, he is a white man,

these abolitionist chaplains accompanying banks helped interracial gatherings in the town's churches where the mixed politics with prayer. four new england chaplains called on brooks in mid-march. charles tennyson declared in a local church that every black-and-white before him, negroes and soldiers, would be presented by the government but 10 acres of the fine land of this valley. were still from the perspective of free mill was a chaplain suggestion that union soldiers could marry some of he did not clarify whether he meant these girls, protestant women, or the slaves in the audience. that would thereby sector five reactionary a baptist minister from upstate new york was a vocal abolitionist since the 1840's. 30 years later, he was seeing the coming of the lord by the army. president lincoln and his ention -- this explicitly post position was voiced, and of the time i come where the perfect equality of the white and black race was to be established. as previously noted, winchester's women were the most immersive for if -- breast service -- he had me noted that he had on his incredi

you can see jane johnson, another african-american abolitionist. this was published in 1872 on account of the incident in 1855. others had conspired to protect her. for some time prior to this, pennsylvania had an anti-slavery law, if you will, six months in the state and, basically, a black person could be free. slave owners were distressed at that. this is one reason why jane and her children found themselves locked in a hotel room. she was able to finally, as they got on the boat, moments from being taken away. and william still is there in the front. the man holding back a slave owner is a quaker. when the black folk got away, it seemed as though the legal system and the proslavery element, turned the rap on him so he was locked up. black women suffered greatly during slavery, that his nose apprise. -- that is no surprise. there is one aspect of this that we often don't talk about that is that those black women who fled to union lines and their reception was not always what you might think. african-american women were not always safe. some unio

stories of black women who worked as soldiers and spies as well as women who were abolitionist on thenderground railroad. this hour-long event took place at the african-american civil or thatrial and it was organized by the historical society of washington dc. [applause] >> good afternoon everyone. frankainly want to thank for his gracious introduction. and thank you all for coming this afternoon. the official title of the ,resentation is dangers african-americans of the civil war. as it certainly tonight talk show host used to say, why don't we get busy. i want to begin with the first photograph and recite some numbers to you as well. just to give you a sense of perspective. according to the census of 1860, there were over 990,000 black women from 15 up to 44 years of age. under1.3 million children 10 years of age. over 120,000 black children under one year of age, and, all of these, most of these, what have been enslaved people. thanks to research put together by the guild institute, there are things that we can say. people that few enslaved lived until old age. 10%een 1830 and 1860

. >> antislavery activists and especially the pennsylvania abolitionist society put forth a vision of new nation that imagined a racially occlusive republic with the basic rights of enslaved africans were respected. professoristory charles discloses -- discusses letters. >> they were encouraged to be expressive about intimacy, connection, and love. oflong as the boundary sexuality was absolutely and strictly maintained. full schedule, good to www.c-span.org. >> in the united nations security council session, north korea's deputy said that the country would not abide by the u.n. security council sanctions. this is 25 minutes. >> good morning. thank you so

for freedom and every encounter showed him the equality and after the war there were plenty of abolitionists who had all kinds of racist white supremacist views but not howa howard. they would say social equality is a totally different thing. he saw it as a unitary concept. so he integrated his church with considerable cost and channeled a tremendous amount of resources to education and when a university for black men and women was established in washington, d.c. in 1867 initially it was going to be the illogical but he said it has to be a medical school, it has to be a law school and it was only natural that it would be named for howard university. now he thought his role in reconstruction was god's providence and he was convinced that this would be the cause of the rest of his life. if the civil war ended, he was 34-years-old, he was wondering are my best days past me and then this happened. this is why he'd been put on her think what he was meant to do. but then it all fell apart. the reconstruction collapsed and the mission was compressed and then snuffed out. the politics of the nation

largely former abolitionists in search of a new cause and they were genuinely interested in the indians welfare, the indians well-being and entreaties being implemented as they should be but with this caveat. even the most ardent advocate of indian rights through the lens of that time did not believe there was anything worth saving in the native cultures. they believed the only way the indian could be saved was through his civilization and christianization. kill the indian to save the man. there was a strong movement even during the course of the indian wars. you see this divide in the national press. the national press east of the fighting zone, east of the mississippi river was quite pro-indian as were members of congress in the east and midwest, whereas the west there really was, there was a popular extermination sentiment among many. the only good indian is a dead indian. there was a bifurcation in attitude but there was a strong indian rights movement but that did not -- the indian rights movement was opposed to genocide but using the lingo of today was entirely fine with cultural

antislavery activists and the pennsylvania abolitionists society put forth a vision of a new nation that imagined a racially inclusive republic rights ofbasic enslaved africans were respected. exchanged between abraham lincoln and his friend. talk about theto everlasting love for each other was normal and encouraged, to be ,xpressive about intimacy expression, and love. as long as the boundary was maintained. .> for more go to c-span.org >> another commencement address from republican senator rob portman. he spoke at ashland university in ohio. this is 15 minutes. [applause] thank you very much. thank you for your friendship and inviting me to be here at

now his uncle also was an abolitionist. this is interesting. two of his sons, abraham lincoln davis, and henry clay denver. [laughter] was one of the founders of the republican party, the party of lincoln and the abolitionists in kentucky, was one of the three people who put lincoln's name and nominations in 1860 republican convention. closenesswas a great between the two. was his uncle's regal scholarship -- that inspired and ice. his religion -- religiosity and practice did not. he separated the two. for a fewurn now minutes to zionism. -- zionism is important theme i think with the justices we've been talking about. brandeis,than louis who was the president of the american jewish scientist movement. yeah. heyour point continent -- contemplated resigning his supreme court seats in order to assume leadership of the world scientist organization. >> this is the 100th anniversary of the tougher declaration, in november. he was on the court -- it was an extra-judicial activity. pushing and persuading woodrow wilson and the wilson administration to

petitions that generated this heated debate antislavery activist and especially the pennsylvania abolitionists society put forth the vision of the new nation and imagined a racially inclusive republic where the basic rights of enslaved africans were respected. presidency,he history professor and author charles roser on letters exchanged between abraham lincoln and his friend. >> to talk about their everlasting love for each other was normal and encouraged to be expressive about intimacy and connection and even love. that's the way to see this relationship. againstas the boundary sexuality was absolutely and certainly maintained. for the complete "american history tv," schedule, go to c-span.org. >> american history tv is looking at the revolutionary war in new jersey. coming up, we retrace the steps of soldiers who fought in the battle of trenton. mr. siegel: the battle of trenton is exceptionally of 1776ant in the time because the american revolution was on the edge of being extinguished. washington's army had reached its lowest point, he was in danger of losing a lot of his troops and his en

gibbs tells stories of black women who worked as soldiers and spies as well as women who were abolitionists on the underground railroad. this hour-long event took place at the african-american civil war memorial and it was or that organized by the historical society of washington dc. [applause] >> good afternoon, everyone. i certainly want to thank frank for his gracious introduction. and thank you all for coming this afternoon. the official title of the presentation is dangers, african-americans of the civil war.

and after the war, there were plenty of abolitionists who would all kinds of racist white supremacist views, but not howard. plenty of people who would parse the meaning of the quality. they would say political equality is one thing, but sold equality is a totally different thing. howard saw equality as a unitary concept. equality meant equality. so after the war he integrated his church in washington at some considerable political cost, and he channeled a tremendous amount of freedmen's bureau resources to education. and when a new university for black men and women was established in washington, d.c., in 1867, initial is going to be a theological school but howard said no. it has to be a university, a medical school, a law school. and it was only natural that it would be named for howard, howard university. now, howard thought his role in reconstruction was gods providence, that he was convinced that this would be the cause of the rest of his life, the civil war ended, he was 34, wondering are my best days passed me. then this happened. and this is why it'd been put on earth, it was

. >> tucker: now, connor, you are wearing a shirt that says "abolitionist" on it.hat mean? >> i'm not a pro-lifer or anything like that. i want to totally abolish human abortion. it's a group called abolish human abortion. we speak not to regulate abortion, but to call it murder and what it is and to completely abolish it in the united states of america and in doing that, bring the gospel into conflict with child sacrifice. that is why i call myself an abolitionist, just because i'm not a pro-lifer trying to regulate abortion. it needs to be completely abolish. to be within a pretty countercultural message. you have an absolute right to express that. thank you very much, connor and lauren, good to see you. up ahead, britain's national student union is implementing a ban on clapping and cheering. why? because they are offensive to the deaf and those of the anxiety disorders. it's a real story. this is the weirdest story of the day? the day? whliberty mutual stood with mek when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad say

he certainly wasn't the northern abolitionist that's ultimately won't to create the republican partyand lincoln. when lincoln was elected, the democrats left the south because they thought their property, e.e., slaves would be taken from them. weighed civil war over it. and it ended it. but the idea that jackson, i don't see how -- certainly people were talking about slavery then. there were a lot of christian ministers running around, the abolitionist group and talking about the rep rehenciveness of slavery at the time. it didn't happen for many, many sea later. >> i think the question, i'll say the question back to the president, ought to be, are you saying this because this is to send this sort of dog whistle to the alt right and those who believe that it was about states rights? that if you're going to put such a simple test, why did it have to happen? are you trying to send a sigl to your supporters from the alt right? or are you just really that confused about the time line and about history? >> a little puzzling. >> let's talk about something we understand. reince priebus said

petitions that generated this heated debate antislavery activist and especially the pennsylvania abolitionistsnclusive republic where the basic rights of enslaved africans were respected. presidency,he history professor and author charles roser on letters exchanged between abraham lincoln and his friend. >> to talk about their everlasting love for each other was normal and encouraged to be expressive about intimacy and connection and even love. that's the way to see this relationship. againstas the boundary sexuality was absolutely and certainly maintained. for the complete "american history tv," schedule, go to c-span.org.

indeed, they were the first math -based for abolitionist. people were always william lloyd garrison was responsible for this but he was too radical for the religious people and he was an anarchist and a feminist at the same time. that was going too far for them. the mass base was established by charles finney and his converts, theodore wells. there the heroes of the story. >> essentially, evangelicalism became heart and soul of american religion as a country spread west. it becomes impossible to understand the development of our country without understanding the spread of evangelicalism and an increasingly dominant role in the heartland of america as well as the big cities and everywhere in the book you talk about what i consider to be a very fateful difference between southern and northern evangelicals. can you say a word about that? >> the south was a rather isolated at the time. it was a rural community, very few townsmen, much less big cities. it was of course, plantations and slaveowners and so forth whereas the north was a good deal mo

. >> reporter: she considers herself an abolitionist, calling prostitution nothing short of modern-dayry. and the focus on buyers and not the sellers, she says is an enlightened, modern approach. >> the women are not being treated like they're bad and dirty, and that this is just who they are. you're going to need to hang in there though. >> reporter: she now works for a seattle nonprofit, a group that not only provides services for women, but also helps counsel the men who buy them, too. >> the men who are buying sex are buying it from a very broken place in their heart where they're trying to fill a void, they're trying to numb whatever pain they have, they're trying to fill powerful, in control and desirable. >> you know, prostitution is called a trick for a reason. he's paying for the illusion of concept, the illusion of mutuality, in fact what we know is that it's not a mutual sexual experience. >> reporter: peter works here as well and leads a ten-week class on the consequences of prostitution. is anyone caught buying sex in seattle is now required to attend that class by law. >>

after the war, there were plenty of abolitionists who is racist views but not howard. plenty of people who would parse the meaning of equality saying political equality is one thing but social equality is a totally different thing. howard saw equality as a unitary concept. after the war, he integrated his church in washington and channeled a tremendous amounts of the bureau to education. when a new university for black men and women were established in 1867, it was initially going to be a theological school but howard said no, it has to be a university. it has to be a medical school. it has to be a law school. it was only natural that it would be named for howard. howard university. now, howard thought his role in reconstruction was god's providence. he was convinced this would be the cause of the rest of his life. the civil war ended, he was 34 years old, he was wondering are my best days past me and then this happened. this was why he had been put on earth and what he was meant to do. then it all fell apart. reconstruction collapsed. the bureau's mission was com comp

votes in congress so he needs to work and he says go talk to lincoln so he tells him either the abolitionistwill run the war from congress or you run it as commander-in-chief otherwise your allowing congress to run the war. so he gives a very convincing speech in the next day lincoln signs the bill. but what is amazing about this the date they needed him to veto the legislation lincoln is in the carriage ride with the secretary of navy to say i think i will issue the "emancipation proclamation" and actually that goes further. and wellington has decided in his mind brothers are telling me congress is against me i think they're giving me permission slip they're sending a policy of the emancipation that i was worried but now i have decided to issue that when he issues it he wraps it in the language which he quotes in full just to show the connection of what he does and what congress has done some of the last tory -- story with fdr as you know, roosevelt was leading a country reluctant to get into the second world war after we talk but how the first world war ended but it that the love the roose

and populism can come from the end of the political spectrum of william jennings bryan he was an abolitionist. his economic views william jennings bryan said people people don't have enough money we will just print more. that works. but populism is the result of people getting into the mentality and there's almost always a scapegoat involved. if you've gone around to the individuals and asked them one by one if they had gone around and asked each person should i be put to death for asking silly questions nobody would have voted to put them to death they had to get into the mob mentality first. they had this democracy that was particularly liable to the mentality so they had to become a mob. >> how do you prevent bands usually these is a rise in extreme stress. i am no liberal democrat, so i'm not necessarily enthusiastic about all this stuff that franklin roosevelt did when he got elected and they got a solid majority not as quick as roosevelt would have liked but maintained the majority of the compliant. i'm not crazy about all the stuff they didn't give him how bad the crisis was. we could

andrewjackson, when he was president, kept a large number of slaves, hardly could be considered an abolitioniststory, you cannot think there is much upside for the president in raising this in this particular way. he continually does it, notjust on this, it is the fact he fills space, he talks about russia, hacking, talks about things that caused him so much pain and people in his office probably say, stop talking about this, he does not, he keeps going, creating more and more problems for poor old sean spicer. you had to help him out! you are watching 100 days plus, and still to come: residential adviser, designer, mother, author, is ivanka trump the most influential first daughter ever? and, the server found alive after 30 hours at the, it was not the ride of his life, but he will not be forgetting at any time soon. temperatures reached into the high teams to near 20 degrees in the warmest part of western britain today, helped, of course, by the sunshine. swansea to cardiff, as high as 20 today, in north—west scotland. it has been much cooler along north sea coast, with the breeze of the sieg

, one way of understanding the american colonization society is this is the way that the later abolitionists were going to describe it as this was slaveowners anti-slavery. so, we will do something about it if we have enough money. but, madison seems to have had the idea that this was a practical solution. that is, that the fund raising ultimately to the acquisition of a particular place to which free people from the united states could be sent. ultimately, during jefferson's lifetime while his friend and former lieutenant james monro was president, the united states sponsored the founding of liberia's capital was still named monrovia and the separatists were freed black people from the united states. so by this time this was not a feasible solution to this problem and one might object nowadays they should have had the idea of a biracial society but jefferson didn't and again it is not true that he thought it's fine i benefit from it i'm not going to do anything about it. i could talk about it but i'm not going to take any action in that regard so besides the reform i mentioned earlier that

had i been around, i would have been an abolitionist. i just think that that's -- that was the problem there. president trump sees himself as a deal maker and i think wonders had he been around could he have done it better. >> but how -- i guess how could andrew jackson, who owned more than 100 slaves or enslaved people, how could andrew jackson have worked that out? >> i think what appeals to president trump is he was tough as nails. i suspect he is thinking here that maybe being tough as nails he could have gotten a better deal as it were for america. it's hard to see in retrospect how we could have avoided this if people were intent on keeping slaves. >> let's give our viewers a little bit more history lesson in how tough as nails andrew jackson was. andrew jackson is also the person responsible for the indiana removal program that forcibly removed indians from the lands and included the trail of tears when thousands of indians died being marched west of the mississippi. this man was a white supremacist. he believed that white people

a relentless advocate for justice, this woman was a proud abolitionist and freedom fighter was that sheold the unadorned truth to whomever would listen and spent countless hours training and organizing others, determined to grow the movement. she served not only is a profound inspiration to those who knew her, but a literal gateway to freedom for hundreds whose lives were changed forever by her heroism. some people know this name as harriet tubman. i know her as susan. and it are those are the words of michelle alexander and those opening three paragraphs in this stunning new work " "becoming ms. burton: from prison to recovery to leading the fight for incarcerated women." michelle, before he go to break, how you see susan story fitting into this larger narrative, the way you have framed your book, , especially in the era of trump? >> when you read susan's story carefully, easy it is not only a story of individual trauma and struggle, survival and heroism, it is also a story that explains how a system has been born in the united states that criminalizes people in the year of the industr

there were abolitionists that combined forces that led to the first shift but i think the u.s.population knew so little about the slavery. back in this part of our history we didn't know about but i do have to tell you i was disappointed to hear that our ancestors went back there and replicated not completely the oppression they face in the united states but certainly the way they treated the native liberians for the native africans because they were on liberia was not very good. >> guest: i think about the universality of the way human beings treat each other. our ancestors who went back there, one of the good things they did, britain had outlawed the slave trade in west africa at that point and they were very very anti-slavery. keep in mind a lot of the native africans who had met them there had been engaged in the slave trade. they were the people who were selling their brothers and sisters into slavery and they were saying this way of life as an economic staple for them eradicated. that was part of some of the tension that you also had a lot of belief among these colonists

had i have around then i would have been an abolitionist. i think that's the problem there. if he had been around would he have done a -- >> but how could andrew jackson who owned more than 100 slaves or enslaved people, how could he have helped that out? >> i think he the president thinks he's tough as nails and he could have gotten a deal for america. but it's hard to see in retrospect if people were intent on keeping slaves. >> let's give our viewers a little bit more history lesson on how tough as nails as andrew jackson. he's also the one sfaubl for the removal of indians in the south that forcibly removed indians from their lands and included the trail of tears where thousands of indians died being marched the west of mississippi. this man was a white supremest among white supremests. he believed white people in the south had the right to forcibly remove those people and their their light, to forcibly enslave human beings. this is not a man who could have solved slave issues. trump has it wrong because he doesn't know anything about history and refuses to read the hist

people were unhappy with slavery, the abolitionist movement came here and stood , no, that they wanted revolution. when women wanted to have the right to vote, the severed jets came here where we are standing to say that that must change. when the civil rights movement from a martin luther king, wanted a change in the laws so that african-americans and all minorities had the same rights as white people in our country, .hey came here and stood here and they were all saying the same thing, free at last, free at last, thank god almighty, free at last. and that, ladies and german, is what the green revolution is now saying about fossil fuels. free at last, free at last, thank god almighty, free at last. they will not stop this wind and solar revolution. they will not stop this all electric vehicle revolution. they will not stop this energy efficiency revolution. they will not tell the green generation any longer that they are not going to have a planet that is safe and clean and nonpolluting. the planet is running a fever. rooms forno emergency planets. the only way to do this correctly is

>> hamilton was a pretty passionate abolitionist.urious, i think it is a that he was in control of all role in the constitution about slavery which was acrimonious? was he a leading voice for repealing slavery? >> that is a great question. there were something significant do and we did some of those things, we could start making the nation rights. agreement, most of them have a agreement that we have enough difficult things to work on, and it went off decisions about slavery for 20 years. there were lots of complicated things. the support and respect for all people that there are some things that they had to buy their taiwan. look at how imperfect our nation has been for 242 years. what do other nation say about us? we are the best. you are not perfect. makespeople like you who changes over time. you need to keep doing that. change is going queen, thatng or person will let no more than the collective we have one gentleman here and one on this site. college i write a paper about hamilton which was to argue how the personality of the r

the society of friends were firm abolitionists. stated for a number of days whether they should take money involved with slavery. in the end they decided that they could because it was for the greater good. sometime after the society of friends where offered money from a woman involved in the theater. they decided that they could not take her money because it was an morally gained. society and the british relief association for large organizations. they operated from the beginning of 1847, and the beginning of 1848 that money was exhausted. the private charity had dried up. money tohey get this the relief of people who needed it? were a number of quakers from america and england. they traveled to western ireland. they would do some of the poorest districts, they took a collections. they did is a great cost to themselves. 13 of those quakers died in that time. the british olympic association operated very differently. count tooyed a polish distribute overly -- oversee relief. he was born in poland and then left because there was the

what we don't know because he died in 1845, is where would he have ended up 15, 16 years later as abolitionistnt grew and as the south became ever more defensive and reactionary. >> john meacham, as always, a great pleasure to have you on. >> thank you so much. >> and more ahead. we'll be right back. nobody does underwater stunts, sylvia. except me, of course. this is my stop. adios! ♪ if you're a stuntman, you cheat death. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. número uno! (i wanted him to eat healthy., so i feed jake purina cat chow naturals indoor, a nutritious formula with no artificial flavors. made specifically for indoor cats. purina cat chow. nutrition to build better lives. start your day with the number one choice of dentists. philips sonicare removes significantly more plaque versus oral-b 7000. experience this amazing feel of clean. innovation and you. philips sonicare. save now when you buy philips nicare. before fibromyalgia, i was a doer. i was active. then the chronic, widespread pain drained my ene

she persuaded former abolitionists to sign a petition to get her husband for a, and jefferson davis, not one of my favorite husbands. jefferson davis, who had paraded her endlessly for her autonomy, -- who had berated her endlessly for her autonomy, now said, this is wonderful, you go, girl. she really -- had she not behaved in an unseemly fashion with incredible determination and political sense -- she knew who to go to -- he would have rotted to death in this prison. gil: can i point out something interesting about this conversation? 25 minutes and, we have not mentioned the word eleanor. to me, that is remarkable progress. 25 years ago when i wrote the book on presidential couples, all we talked about was eleanor roosevelt. you would talk about the first lady of the moment, then eleanor roosevelt, little bit of jackie and lady bird johnson. interesting to see how the conversation has developed. inette: i was about to jump with that because there was nobody like that. carol: i was going to bring up nancy reagan, who i think -- and no one is ever going to know because she never told

his mother is a ferocious abolitionist and forces her son to take that command. barlow gets him through harvard. , when he isrlow really sick, suddenly, mrs. barlow -- i'm sorry, barlow has married a woman 10 years his senior. a very cerebral match, although they love each other very much. she dies in the summer of 1874. because she has followed her husband around by being a volunteer nurse and gets typhoid. she dies while her husband is on the battlefield and he is sick as a dog. later on, mom decides in the tradition of good moms everywhere that she will fix them up with a better wife. and she fixes him up with who? of robert, the sister goal shaw. the channing and the barlow is -- the channings and the barlows knew each other. is not about drawing your sword and leading in bayonet charge for making one wise decision. there are questions of loyalty. any soldier will tell you the first loyalty is to the mission. if the mission you are given its hopeless and you know your soldiers are going to die? is there a gray area? is your next loyalty to your superior to yo