by say being want open borders, abollish i.c.e., we want something, who said they wanted something kinder and they don't want deportation force. >> let's reimagine i.c.e., whatever that means. janine, they say they're for open borders but none of them has the guts to go and foot the bill. they go to the protest. not in the well of the senate, in the house, introduce bills that say we're going to reimagine borders. we imagine the fact that congress made it a crime to enter the country illegally. none of them have the guts to do. that where's the piece of legislation? it's chief and easy to wave a sign and go scream into a megaphone. ifts oh harder work to come back to washington and actually do your job. and you know what, this president, he's on task every single day and he ran successfully on issues like illegal immigration, like having borders and security. and he always talks about the drugs that are pouring in also. he's on top of that as well. of all people, president obama this past weekend, president obama told the democrats, you got to do more than mope. they've gone from hope to

feels like the far extreme of the democrat party is driving this abollish i.c.e. narrative and potential, really bad direction for the party. >> absolutely, doug is right. this is well abollishing ice is well outside the mainstream. the democrat party is well outside the mainstream. i tell what you concerns people about the border and about what's coming across the border, it's about drugs. pete, you're from the midwest, you know where these forgotten communities are that are finally coming back, thanks to the trump economy. but they're still suffering because of so much drugs that are devastating our communities, devastating the families. vast majority coming over the southern border. that's important to them. let me state 127,000 undocumented criminals were arrested by i.c.e. last year. almost 2,000 of those were homicides, 78,000 of those arrests were for drugs. axwolish i.c.e.? what happened to those 127,000 criminal illegal immigrants. >> great point. francisco, if you watch the so-called mainstream media this was going to be trump's katrina, zero tolerance po

i.c.e. is in fact abollished. what replaced it? >> i.c.e.not always been around. >> used to be the ins. >> thing that i.c.e. has overstepped its boundary. it's become an agency that's over the top. it goes around school grounds, church grounds to arrest people. it's too aggressive and over the top. i think its lost its course. we should replace it with something sensible, practical. still have to be a law enforcement agency but something humane. >> what is i.c.e. doing that is for people like you giving it a reason to be abolished. >> that's the problem. we don't know to what degree they are doing. that's why i put forward a piece of legislation that asked for them not to process locations and have body cameras so we can look at every interaction they have with civilians across the united states. a run away agency that should be pulled back and something more effective and practical. >> you brought up the issue of the families that are still divided. the kids that are in custody away from their parents. on tuesday during a hearing the dhs se

i.c.e. has been the target of public outrage for enforcing the trump administration zero policy. some say that agency should be abollished. vice president of the occupation mike pence says he won't let that happen. listen. >> while i stands buffer today at a time when some people are actually coming for the abolition of i.c.e., in this white house, let me be clear, we are with you 100%, and as the president said last night, we will always stand proudly with the brave heroes of i.c.e. and our border patrol. >> but i.c.e.'s critics say they are looking for a deeper cultural exchange. >> democrats will not who have said this have not said abolish i.c.e. and do nothing. what we said is have a new agency that has principles and values more consistent with what the american people believe, that means not ripping kids and babies away from their parents. i.c.e. was a new agency created after 9/11 to essentially go after terrorists. they've gone far away from that mission. we need to make sure the new i.c.e. director curbs i.c.e.'s culture so they are in line with original missions and what americans expect i.c.e. to do. >> to th

. -- this abollish i.c.e. movement. his is a movement that is fundamentally irresponsible and based on one recent poll more than 70% of the american people when asked about it opposed the idea, and for good reason. i.c.e. was created, after all, in 2003, in response to the discovery that many of the 9/11 hijackers had exploited our holes in our immigration enforcement by -- and overstayed their tourist visas and attended flight schools without a proper visa. we know what happened there on that terrible day, 9/11/2001. we know that hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals overstayed their -- overstay their visas every year illegally, and without i.c.e., those unlawfully residing in our country in violation of their visas would be allowed to stay indefinitely. is that what the abolish i.c.e. movement is about, is eliminating enforcement of our immigration laws and allow people who flout those laws to succeed in staying here in the united states in violation of those immigration laws? of course, abolishing i.c.e. would me