and i think i can squeeze in between abraham baldwin from georgia and he is here and he is the last to sign and he is gesturing to the constitution itself. and now i'm standing in between george washington and james madison. and george washington is the tallest man in the room at 6'2", he is towering over everyone else in his physical presence. he is commanding in every respect. and james madison, over whom i'm absolutely towering, i think he was 5'4" and the smallest guy in the room and thin-boned and juan and he had epilepsy and had challenged in health and there is a great new biology by lynne cheney who talked about his illness and physical frailty shaped many of his ideas and created this great man the father of the constitution, if there was a single father, who was so devoted to moderation and pragmatism and compromise and the great genius of the constitution was the balancing and mixing of interests. the challenge for the men in this room was how to balance interests that seems at times irreconcilable and it was balance over the small states versus the large states. the small s