i just talked to a soldier today who served after the abu ghraib pictures came out. and their units right the day and the day subsequent were reminded that it's likely to get more dangerous. they had to double their first aid kits. they had to double their patrols, spend more time on patrols and violence had an up tick. and when you look at that and you say, what value do we have in showing this photo, it's just we don't need to add to their -- that soldier's difficulty. >> that sound byte is golden. i'll tell you why. because now the president can say to the american people and the world, we've been down this road before and mistakes were made. it was harder on our troops. and i thought the republicans just loved the troops. i thought that the conservatives out there were always out there saying they support the troops. could it be offered up tonight that the president of the united states is supporting the troops and making their mission a little bit easier by not inflaming the rest of the world by releasing these photos as we've been down this road with abu ghraib

authorities in guantanamo and other prisons overseas like the infamous abu ghraib in iraq contributed to more terror when i was in iraq i oversaw the interrogations of foreign fighters and those foreign fighters the majority of them said time and time again the reason they come to iraq to fight was because of the torture and abuse detainees and both are great and went on a bang and this is not my opinion the department offense tracked the statistics and they were briefed every interrogator right there that that torture and abuse was ok his number one recruiting tool and so this policy of torture and. used to not make america safer what it did was it caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of american soldiers recently in the wake of all the cheering about bin laden's death when asked about torture the cia director said other we would have gotten the same information through other approaches so i think it's always going to be an open question just a few years ago when barack obama was running for president on promises to shut down guantanamo and stop the torture it was presented as

i just talked to a soldier today who served after the abu ghraib pictures came out. their units right the day and the day subsequent were reminded that it's likely to get more dangerous. they had to double their first aid kits. they had to double their patrols. spend more time on patrols and violence had an uptick. when you look at that and you say what value do we have in showing this photo versus what we know are soldiers who are in harm's way in places that we know some people -- i'm not talking about people who are against this, they're going to be against this. in a village in afghanistan, there may be a village elder who's wondering should i be for the united states or the taliban, i don't want any reason for him to say i want to be for the taliban. these guys don't like muslims or offended me in some way. we don't need to add to that soldier's difficulty. i don't think there's anything on it. the wives have come out and said it's osama bin laden. he's dead. we have d.n.a. of 99.7% accuracy. i have seen the photos. i have requested that the rest of my committee

>>recuerde las fotos que salieron de abu ghraib en irak; ayudan a reclutar mÁs gente porque son fotosonde no se ve la cara, pero sÍ la forma en la cual se hizo esta operacÓn para que los musulmanes del mundo entero vean que este presidente que ha tendo una sensatez hacia su cultura estÁ cumpliendo lo que ha dicho. >>stephen donohooe, experto militar. amigo, muchas gracias. por estar con nosotros en este programa, cuando continÚa saliendo informaciÓn fascinante sobre la muerte de osama bin laden. gracias, stephen donohooe. y nosotros, vamos a una breve pausa. tenemos mucho que compartir. hablaremos sobre la posibilidad de una reforma migratoria en el futuro. el congresista josÉ serrano estarÁ con nosotros para hablar de eso y tendremos al secretario del interior ken salazar. ¡no se lo pierda! ya regresamos. mi habitación... lucia: ¡déjame ayudarte! lili: ¡quiero sentirme especial! lucia: ¡te pasas hermanita! lili: más en un castillo elegante... ¿ahora, eres la princesa de la casa? siempre lo he sido... [tema musical] díaz-balart: continuando con "enfoque" desde washington dc, seguiremo

the yet you've heard of abu ghraib. i think that tells you that our media's failing to do it job today. does that answer your questionsome. >> but, sir, we always had newspaper men in vietnam. they were everywhere. i think they were motivated not to write sensational stories, but to try to hone to the line. and i think a lot of it has to do with the outlook of the press today versus the outlook of the press in world war ii, it's even different. but we always had people. >> question over here, please? >> would either or both of you care to comment about the role of women in fighting the vietnam war? on the other side? >> women were very effective in fighting on the other side. and they were, a lot more of them were involved in that war than we realized. but i think that they were probably considered among the most efficient fighters that took to the battlefield. they did a tremendous job for the wrong side, unfortunately. >> i have another take. whenever our soldiers after battle was over would see that they had killed a

i mean i wish, for example, abu ghraib didn't happen. >> i care deeply about stem cell research. >> eitherdidn't take his medication or he's acting. one of the two. >> i could give a damn about rush limbaugh's pity. i'm not a victim. >> couric: since sunday, these southern california wildfires have burned nearly 400 square miles. an area larger than new york city. for the record, have you ever used steroids, human growth hormone or any other performance-enhancing substance? >> no. >> the gunman came into the class, shot the person sitting next to me. >> couric: what did you hear? >> at first it sounded like hammers on the wall. >> i never once considered that, in fact, they would declare my identity as payback. >> couric: of the 30,000 additional troops sent here for the surge, more than 26,000 were deployed to secure baghdad. >> when we were on the outskirts we would drive in every day to conduct patrols. now we're here permanently, we can walk. >> couric: who is the single most impressive person you've ever met? >> it would have to be... >> probably ronald reagan. >> couric: did the addi

period of time let me explain what this is doing this is a recruitment mechanism it's like those abu ghraib prison photos remember well that was a huge recruiting tool now every time the c.m.e. increases marginal rates it's sending a huge recruiting message to the silver liberation army who's sucking more of the physical so more off the market you are being hoisted by your own margin pretty hard c.m.e. . to an undisclosed location so more and the united states and speak with the beautiful and always vive aisha's stacy herbert who i understand is having a silver round made in her on the edge soon stacey hello i'm banks yes you talum in america because you're a me over there you can see a picture of bin laden over here you can see my seven rifles. so i'm ready. and ready for the show some good gracious. way nicely back out of the green. beret carrying the gun yet and for on a next i want a hard way one of. the long frozen fish in the sea incident actually been mine is my first headline not because i want to talk about him but there's this interesting little bit in here osama bin ladin hideout

been on the house intelligence committee back in two thousand whatever it was when the when the abu ghraib pictures. came out and he and he had personally talked with commanders in the field who said that they had had men die because those photos were released and he didn't want to see any more of our soldiers well actually that was misconduct by american military officials were talking about a successful mission on the part of american soldiers american navy seal seal members who went in did the mission and i think it's historical it's something that either he or she wasn't around are judy said and. i just don't think publishing is necessarily something that we should do we shouldn't do i don't think it going to make a big difference either way but what i would say that you know be being triumphant about what you did is a lot different if we're going to do things in the world we should do them in being translated about them and so they're much prepared to listen is that enough of the right while at the same time you have to think about the message that the sons to the terrorists is that a

the problem with the pictures from abu ghraib, for example, wasn't the pictures themselves that caused a lot 6 trouble, but it was because of what we did in the pictures. in this case we killed a guy who killed nearly 3,000 americans. if it offends you to see him with a bullet in his head, you should have tried to talk him out of 9/11 a little earlier. joining mess is congressman adam schiff. she serves on the intelligence committee. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> first, saxby chambliss, among others, have said this will obviously come out at some point. should we release the pictures now? >> i think the white house may very well have to revisit this if al qaeda, for example, airs a stored video of bin laden it will only give further fuel to the idea that among conspiracy theorists he wasn't really killed. it elevates the myth. i think people should see how he lived, the opulent life he was living and i think they should see he's dead. i understand the white house has reservations, i have not yet seen the photos, but i think ultimately they may come around to the conclusion t

relentless criticism and mockery for decades, during law school, they criticized him for wearing the abu ghraib attire. b attire. the obama >> the obama administration considered prosecuting him and a judge tried to charge him with war crimes. he was called to testify. >> was the memo implemented? >> the memo was signed and provided. >> noi what signed means and so do you, stop wasting my time. >> i'm not trying to, sir. >> now ten years later, usama bin laden is dead. >> i think that those policies have successfully provided information to the government that have allowed this country to prevent terrorist attacks by al-qaeda on our homeland. >> professor yoo i want you to take me back to the day you were asked to draft the memo that's become now so very famous that ultimately created the legal authority for enhanced interrogation. how did that come about? >> we were just in the first few months after the 9/11 attacks and our intelligence agency scored a series of intelligence coups, namely the capture of leading al-qaeda figures like zubaida and khalid shaikh mohammed and these were people, th

or counter conservative idea, meaning an idea that could be leveled against the radical reason abu ghraib is the hair in particular in the way of defending traditional ways of doing things, the wisdom of people in the countryside and the roots of modern anti-democratic populism of the light in the age of revolution that in the. >> that at revolution have been a couple years after hours. whether a lot of influence this? thematic incredible number. jefferson was there for the beginning of the french revolution. the great document that frames the revolution. lafayette becomes immediately the head of the national guard because he is the hero of the american revolution. and of course the real reason french have such a financial crisis to begin with in the american revolution about 15 years earlier. so the french revolution in some senses even conceivable without the american revolution. not that it was the same direction. plenty of differences between the two, but one of the fascinating things about teaching them together is figuring out how deeply interwoven the ats, finances, even military a

foreign policy from guantanamo, to abu ghraib. then, one of them on a false premise, iraq, the other unwinnable. if anything comes from bin laden's death, perhaps it will be the political capital to get out. this weekend marks another milestone in the war on terror that has become a way of life in america. let's hope it can remind us all why we are in this. to fight for the freedoms that were stolen from us first on that bright september morning by foreigners and subsequently taken from us by our own government in the name of our own security. we all know the absurdity that that has represented. that does it for us.

troops posing with iraqi detainees at the abu ghraib prison. they became public in 2004. for some perspective on the complexities involved here, we turn to richard clarke, former white house counterterrorism adviser in the clinton and early george w. bush administrations. he is now a consultant. juan zarate, a deputy national security adviser in the bush administration. he is now a senior adviser with the center for strategic and international studies. we have need to publish to photos to establish that osama bin laden is dead, the words of president obama. juan zarate, did he make the right call? >> this is a hard call, ray. i think for the moment it appears to be the right decision. i think what the administration and white house is trying to do is keep the moral high ground on this narrative, the narrative of having brought justice to the world's most infamous terrorist. and i think what they're trying to do is to make sure that not only does the white house not appear insensitive but that america is not besmirched by gruesome images of bin laden having been killed and

question that i had in listening to your stories, i couldn't help but think about people for example abu ghraib and guantanamo. i was wondering, did you feel any particular way upon hearing those stories of the jihad that you hear many of the arabs and the muzz people experiencing -- muslim people experiencing in the prisons there. would you compare and contrast your experience with what you may have heard about them. >> the -- >> all i can think of is that you can't believe most of what you hear or even see. the media does tend to hide a lot of the worst of the news from the american

on telephones or computers and it would have given the militant groups another stock image like abu ghraibike some detainees in guantanamo bay. this would have been yet another part of the stockpile of images. >> i apologize. i've got interrupt you. jay carney is starting now. >> before i take your questions, i would just like to say to you, the president has made the decision not to release any of the photographs of the deceased, osama bin laden. and rather than -- rather, first, i will give you the language the president used when he was recently interviewed about an hour ago to explain his decision. this is an interview with cbs "60 minutes," steve kroft. the president was asked, he said that they were discussing when bin laden's body was taken out of the compound, the president was asked about how they knew it was him and he said, when they landed, we had very strong confirmation at that point that it was him. photographs had been taken. facial analysis indicated that, in fact, it was him. we hadn't yet done dna testing but at that point we were 95% sure. question, did you see the pict

you know, i've seen most stories about us doing things like abu ghraib.ow many pictures did we see about abu ghraib? than i see about the bad things the enemy is doing. you know, just last week we lost over 14 soldiers in afghanistan. i don't hear anyone talking about that anymore. when our media sees themselves as a ideological political wing, i got some serious concerns about that. because the part of a nation's power, the dive theory, diplomatic, informational, military and economic, and if we can't take our own information and national power and use it as an asset force then we'll lose our country. the last most important strategic objective that we have to have is we have to cordon off this enemy and reduce his fear of influence. we've together shut down where he is and we're not doing that. we're allowing them to come into the united states of america. what happened with major nidal hasan should not have happened in the united states of america and i was stationed at fort hood texas. and anyone that wants to doubt that's part of the 21st century bat

the same president that wanted to show the flag draped coffins and show all the pictures out of abu ghraib pictures. >> there's also a concern it might incite extremists to violence. that's another reason the president said he doesn't want to release those photos. what about that? >> i just co-authored a book "the fight of our lives" and what it is that incites people to violence. it is much more, it seems, odd as it may be, things like cartoons of muhammad, speeches by the pope, reports of someone burning a koran or flushing a koran down a toilet, this is what seems to incite people much more. there have been lots of grizzly photos out there the last five, six, seven years of war and don't seem to have incitement or significance these other things do. i know this business is ugly. it is something a lot of people will turn their heads away from. i don't want to dwell on it look at it a long time, i do want to look at it 10 or 15 seconds and see this has come to an end and i think the american people can see it. when in doubt and there is merit on both sides, justice bran do is said it best

the abu ghraib funny things that happened was when we did the ball. the providence place mall.we have relocated the rivers and we need to be entrepreneurial. the whole thing about the mull depended on whether not we got nordstrom's to be an anchor tenant there. they were a class a number one retailer in the country and all that stuff. the guy who owned him, who was the developer and eventually sold his interest but the guy who wanted us to be very much involved with him was a guy named khan jill. we have a lot of malls around the country. we had to go, myself and the governor, had to go to seattle washington to meet with the nordstrom family. we walked into the four seasons hotel i think it was and we register and this desk clerk says governor, mayor cianci. suddenly he felt like he was menachem begin, this world figure that they knew him. the guy went back to get room keys and i said don't get all impressed. the kid probably went to johnson and wales. [laughter] so the kid came back and i said by the way where did you go to school? he said johnson and wales. [laughter] the nex

american abuses at the abu ghraib prison, and harsh interrogations at secret sights labeled are labelede as some inflamed the muslim world. khalid sheikh mohammed provided information invaluable to us. radical change did come to the middle east of course but hardly as osama bin laden would have envision edit. that and more from my look back at the first decade on the war on terror on special report with bret bair at 6:00pm. martha. martha: when you think of this unfolding in the middle east it's quite a tale. we look forward to that on special report. you have a growing number of congressman asking very tough new yes, sir about our relationship with pakistan. and whether or not its government knew about osama bin laden's whereabouts and if so for how long. former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton joins us moments from now about what this means for our country. supposedly is pakistan an ally in the war on terror. he has an interesting take on that. arlene howard lost his son when the towers fell but gained a very special connection to president burn. she will join us in the next ho

that coalition commanders used and enhanced interrogation techniques were frowned upon after the abu ghraib scandal. but the hunger for action for intelligence on insurgents was pap panel. i want to add one more time, this is not in the article, but i really believe when we're talking about dealing with terrorists and getting information that will stop terrorists from attacking us in the united states or elsewhere in the world, we ought to use whatever techniques that we possibly can to get that information. and i'm not talking about with torture. some of the newspaper people and news people that we see on television have actually experienced water boarding on television to show how it works. and it was not torture and it is not torture and we ought to use those techniques to make sure we protect our homeland and our people here and abroad. the way jsoc solved this problem remains a carefully guarded secret but people familiar with the unit suggest that mcchrystal and flynn interviewed hardened commandos to basic criminal forensic techniques and then used highly advanced and still classifie

remember abu ghraib? american soldiers were killed because people got enraged. there are a lot of people out there who hold this guy up as a hero. if we do this, it will cause people to get killed. it is that simple. my last thought is, you need to get richard clark on there. when the bush administration came in there, they came in and reshuffled the effort to get the bin laden, that was just before 9/11. i am tired of hearing about all of this propaganda stuff that is going on, conspiracy theories. the media and vested interests are whipping up disrespect and doubt for the president. he is a great man. do not release these pictures. you will kill american soldiers if you do. host: "the new york times." on tuesday, the house voted to eliminate mandatory financing to set up health benefits exchanges under the health care law. it began debate on other bills to be voted on today. st. paul, minnesota. ben is an independent. what do you think about this, released the photo? caller: i think there should not release the voters. the world does not need to see that. our

guantanamo is no abu ghraib. detainees are treated in a matter that i don' conforms to international law and honors our values. guantanamo detainees receive three meals a day tailored to their preferences of each detainee. they also have access to top-notch health care faciliti facilities. their religion is respected. they have television, newspapers, books, english and art classes. in fact, the officials at guantanamo bend over backwards to respect the cultural and religious preferences of the detainees that are held there. don't get me wrong, guantanamo is no club med, but the terrorists who are detained there, most of who would undoubtedly kill americans if they were given the chance, are getting much better treatment than they deserve. and as a former prosecutor, i've been in a few prisons in my time and i can tell you that the facility at guantanamo bay, the detention facility there is much nicer than some that our common criminals are in, in the united states of america. as a former prosecutor, i was also i