terry jones as then there was the abu ghraib incident and before then there was the decision to invade iraq that had nothing to do with nine eleven so all of these these situations pile on and they add up and what happens is al qaida and other terrorist organizations and using this video and they put it in their recruiting videos end up on you tube and across the jihad of web channels and they end up reading anti-american sentiment and all over time this is a way to radicalize and recruit young people to join in the suicide terrorist activity and it should be in the it should be absolutely. spoken against by the department of defense and. right now i think they have been kind of incompetent they say well we're looking into it no they just simply need to say this is absolutely horrible and we're going to go after these guys. jake i want to bring up a couple of recent statistics about relations between people from muslim countries and western nations in the u.s. about half say that the relationship between the two groups is generally bad but about forty three percent say it's generally g

this is not another abu ghraib. it is not going to have the same impact that did. >> to a degree, the die has been cast in afghanistan. the timetable for withdrawal was set in stone. the taliban shrugged this off. negotiations are going to proceed along a separate line of operations. >> we have the u.s. secretary of state coming out and condemning this. parks as well she should have. the response from u.s. and nato spokespeople has been appropriate. it is deeply embarrassing for the united states marine corps. these marines have disgraced the marine corps and the country. >> did you think that these kinds of incidents happen more often or less often than in previous conflicts? is it the nature of communications today and to get these on line quicker? >> perhaps less often if you look at the official u.s. propaganda in the second world war the way in which the japanese photo was dehumanized. you could imagine how that would translate down to the squad and the platoon level. the difference today is that with the adven

terry jones as then there was the abu ghraib incident and before then there was the decision to invade iraq that had nothing to do with nine eleven so all of these these situations pile on and they add up and what happens is al qaeda and other terrorist organizations and then using this video and they put it in their recruiting videos end up on you tube and across the jihad of web channels and they end up reading anti-american sentiment this is the hugest recruitment for al qaida that we can do that anybody can do nobody in the united states military is trained to pee on dead people this is the behavior of ill disciplined soldiers under my opinion are probably also suffering from a severe amount of p.t.s.d. from long ended war and what happens when you suffer from p.t.s.d. and the dehumanizing other human beings in the in the battlefield and it's it's an it's a un's fathomable how pathetic this is become because the war hasn't been brought to an end like obama said he was going to do and what we're seeing abu ghraib happened twice now in afghanistan. explore all our stories in doubt on

but it's very disturbing that post abu ghraib with all the attention that rained down on the americanhat and all the shame that came down on the perpetrators -- >> that this happened again -- >> this kind of thing is being unearthed again. it's incredibly disappointing, isn't it? >> it is. as a former soldier, you know, and as an american, yeah, you never want to see anything like that occur. but, you know, it's sad. and hopefully, you know, we will never have to go through this -- >> should they be kicked out? >> again -- >> the perpetrators? >> i think we should find out from the whole entire case of what the actual back story is -- >> if that video is entirely an accurate portrayal of what they did, do you think the marines involved should be -- >> well, they should be punished just like the, you know, military servicemen that were associated with the abu ghraib. but, you know, i think definitely investigate the whole story, don't jump to conclusions. >> how do you think the marines would be feeling about the shame that this incident has caused marines generally? it has, and it's a

terry jones as then there was the abu ghraib incident and before then there was the decision to invade iraq that had nothing to do with nine eleven so all of these these situations pile on and they add up and what happens is al qaeda and other terrorist organizations and using this video and they put it in their recruiting videos end up on you tube and across the jihad web channels and they end up reading anti-american sentiment this is the hugest recruitment for al qaida that we can do it's on fathomable how pathetic this is become because the war hasn't been brought to it and like obama said he was going to do and what we're seeing abu ghraib happen twice now in afghanistan. well not everyone in america is outraged by what the marines were filmed doing and you can find out on our web site part two dot com c.n.n. contributor praises the troops actions as a cool thing she would do the same in their position also online. violent clashes in romania watch out footage as frustrated in iraq overall sturdy cob and low standard of living. this week the anniversary of the world's most controve

jerry jones as then there was the abu ghraib incident and before then there was the decision to invade iraq that had nothing to do with nine eleven so all of these these situations pile on and they add up and what happens is al qaeda and other terrorist organizations and using this video and they put it in their recruiting videos end up on you tube and across the jihad or web channel and they end up reading anti-american sentiment this is the hugest recruitment for al qaida that we can do it on fathomable how pathetic this is become because the war hasn't been brought to an end like obama said he was going to do and what we're seeing abu ghraib happened twice now in afghanistan. well not every one of america's outraged by what the marines were filmed doing as you find out on our website r.t. dot com the c.n.n. contributor praises the troops actions as quote cool saying she'd do the same in their position we think about that we're going to comment that we thought would read up more on why also passengers on board that luxury clues cruise liner which ran aground off for italy tuscan coas

. >> this harkins back to abu ghraib, the scandal back in 2004.s when the humiliating photos were taken of prisoners naked. and in that instance, 17 soldiers and officers were removed from daughter uty. that was between may 2004 and march 2006. how do you justify this type of behavior or explain, maybe not justify. is it stress, immaturity? what do you think is happening here. >> there's no justification for this type of activity. it's a clear violation of international conventions and our own standards of conduct within the military. i suspect this will be investigated and prosecuted if the evidence leads to individuals conducting it. >> we also understand it could perhaps be a war crime. >> well, again, all of that is covered under the uniform code of military justice. i'm not sure war crime is a technical, legal term but there are clearly provisions within the uniform code of military justice that would account for desecration of bodies on the battlefield. >> let's talk about retaliation here. because this is a big concern. we still have a lot

even if something like this is investigated symbols matter just like on one of those a symbol of abu ghraib was a symbol this is a symbol and we can only hope that more people start paying attention to issues like this with work like what you do thank you so much for your time i really do appreciate and i'm pleased. i will more than ten years ago american warplanes began to pummel taliban positions across afghanistan in what became the first stage of america's longest war billions of dollars and countless afghan not to mention american lives later the war drags on and while an end is technically in sight for us forces victory whatever that means in afghanistan is not so how do we get here and what is in store for the future of that country for the answer we decided to turn to one reporter who's watched it all unfold both on the ground and among the pentagon's top brass michael hastings penned the infamous rolling stone article that helped end the career of general general stanley mcchrystal he's now expanded that story and his experiences in afghanistan the coins the strategy so-called a co

. >> and can you compare this to abu ghraib? >> i think that involved high- ranking officers and low- ranking officers and that was systemic and we have one video, one instance involving four individuals. in a time of war, they happen and they're always bad apples. you can't compare this to abu ghraib. >> i spoke with the retired army general last night who said this is a lack of discipline and a lack of leadership. is this happening more often than not or is it that lack of discipline and lack of leadership and an isolated incident? >> there could be many explains for what is happening. i have seen media reports about steroids abuse with regard the individuals. this is all hypothetical and hearsay. knowing the marines, this is an unfortunate exception and i am not worryd this is a trend we should see more videos in the future and i don't expect to so that. >> and penalty for these dies -- guys? desecration of the dead perhaps? >> this is in the marine corps. i would expect knowing the prestige and ethics of the marine corps, se

participated or known about it, having engaged in such conduct, must be held fully possibility of another abu ghraib-typelp broker peace talks to end the more than decade-long war. analysts say this incident may give the taliban another reason to stall and the afghan leader another reason to balk. ullyot says: "this also makes it tougher for karzai to justify entering talks at this point because these are seee as american sponsored talks 26322 and americans are even less popular as a result of this tape." eager to help bboker the reconciliation talks, the administration has laid out its red lines -- namely that both the afghan government and the international community must see the insurgents renounced violence, break with al qaeda and support the laws and constitution of afghanistan. clinton set a practical tone. clinton says: "we don't have any idea standinn here today whaa the outcome of such discussions could be. i think all of us are entering into it with a very realistic sense of what is possible." as forrthe transfer of guantanmo detainees - including its battlefield commanders with direct contact

the video, reminiscent of the graphic pictures of the american soldiers abusing prisoners at abu ghraib 80 euros ago. >> who should have learned from long history of these things happening periodically. >> this marks the tenth anniversary of detentions at one time all day. demonstrators at this candlelight vigil protest at the 171 men still detained at the naval base and say the latest video reflects an ugly pattern. >> that we could treat human beings with such disrespect in this day and age after we have had this discussion with our national debate over and over again, and that we are just at this point is heartbreaking. >> it's shocking. i think it will lead to more outrage and more atrocities. it's like we are in the downward cycle and we have to stop to say, though. >> colonel kearney says the video is true to expect fallout for the american military and also our hours and supporters in afghanistan. >> it depicts us in the worst possible light so it will be real challenge for the administration to handle this with me, properly, within the constraints of the military judicial system

soldiers at abu ghraib prison posed next to people in degrading positions. others were sentenced to military prison. the military is investigating the current individual dwroe. it's unlikely an investigation will contain the damage it's likely to cause. >> overnight the command put out a statement saying the marines in the pictures are apparently no longer in afghanistan meaning the video was shot some time ago. whether that has any difference on the reaction of the public remains to be seen. >> what will the pentagon do to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> of course, they remember abu ghraib better than anyone. they also remember the furor that was set off by the mere report that a guard at guantanamo urinated on the koran. they're extremely about what the reaction might be. the hope is that since the bodies being desecrated here are taliban and the taliban are not popular in afghanistan, this will not be seen as an insult to the muslim culture. but, again, that's going to be for muslims to decide, not the pentagon. >> dave martin from the pentagon. >

this will not have the oversized effect that the abu ghraib incident had. this is deeply embarrassing for the u.s. marine corps. the response all the way up to the secretary of state has been correct. >> thank you so much for coming in. >> sure thing. >> one more footnote on the u.s. armed forces. a military tribunal is up recommending a court martial for bradley for providing thousands secret documents to wikileaks. the tribunal chief believes that the grounds exist that he committed those things that he was accused of. when a fruit cellar set himself on fire in tunisia, he sparked a revolution that changed the arab world. we have uncovered alarming statistics suggesting that he triggered a trend. despite the overthrow of the hated regime and the arrival of democracy, hundreds of technicians continue to set themselves not hundreds of -- hundreds of tunisians continued to set themselves alight. >> last month, a man lit himself with a match. he survived but he is here at the burn unit in the capital. he says that he deliberately copied the actions of the man

wants to avoid another abu ghraib scandal where american soldiers were photographed demeaning prisoners in iraq. a top marine general has promised an internal investigation as well as a criminal one. tara merge jgener for cbs news white house. >>> secretary panetta unveiled details last week. two brigades will be withdrawn from europe. fort bliss, texas yesterday, it consists of 3,000 to 4,000 troops. it's part of a broader redirection of u.s. forces. the u.s. plans to begin rotating units in and out of europe. >>> to politics. a group is holding a meeting in texas starting today deciding whether to back mitt romney or somebody else. the south carolina primary just nine days away, there's pressure on romney's opponents to tone down the criticism of his business dealings. we go to ines ferre in washington with more. >>> good morning, terrell. one of the contenders pressured to tone down his attacks is newt gingrich. even though yesterday he didn't repeat his criticism of mitt romney's business record, he did defend his right to question it. newt gingrich is pulling out all the stops agai

of photos from abu ghraib photos to the newest video coming out of afghanistan showing troops urinating on dead afghans are images like these fueling anti american sentiment in the middle east maximum covert operation. to belong in this room iranian program would include taking out their scientists well that's one way to run a country about it but is it really the best foreign policy strategy the u.s. can come up with well take a.

under the pretext of fighting terrorism and establishing prison and detention centers in guantanamo abu ghraib under the context of promoting freedom. we stress that syria gets its strength from the strengths of its people and it will stand firm in confronting its enemies. we call all of other e those who are fermenting the crisis and bent on exacerbating it, to reconsider these policies and to end massacring the syrian people. one cannot be an arsonist and a firefighter at the same time. we call on them to support national dialogue and the syrian political reform process. implemented by syrian leadership and response to the legitimate demands by the people. by way of example, i say, that in february, we will hold a referendum on a new constitution for the country that guarantees party and political pluralism. parliamentary elections will be held in the first half of the year, leaving the final say to the ballot box. in conclusion, we expect the security council to be a platform, encouraging dialogue as a way to settle crisis. we don't expect it to provoke or to aggravate crisis. we believe th

of >> i suppose the argument is it is another abu ghraib and will show the callousness of u.s. soldiers in the world. >> it is not clear that abu ghraib made that much difference ultimately in the arab world. i think wiebe blowing it up we helped cause that difference. and also it would have been nice if the secretary of defense could have said a few things about the 99% of marines and soldieriers who behaved inn eck emlary way. this ba at iton suffered a lot of deaths and wounded in the tough fighting. instead to go on tv and criticize our own troops i don't think this is a good thing. >> chris: let me come at this from a different angle. the taliban which i think we all would agree has a terrible record of brutal behavior including beheadings expressed outrage at the video. here is a comment from the spokesman for the taliban. it was despicable and unforgivable act. does the taliban have standing to lecture us on what is despicable? >> we shouldn't be abiding by the taliban standards. we have our own standards as americans. clearly this was a despicable act. >> depickable? >>

. >> woodruff: thinking abu ghraib. >> you look at the kill team incidents in southern afghanistan just last year, that was arguably certainly a lot worse than what we saw in video today. but the visceral images are something that is different. >> woodruff: david ignatius, as somebody who has covered this conflict, how do you think something like this happened? >> well, i think andrew exum said all the things that are right. the videos are shocking, the behavior is immature. it's just grotesquely. >> that's right. >> inappropriate, these are young men at war. they are dehumanized. but what i found really disturbing watching the video is the sort of smirking, these guys looking at the camera and smiling as they urinate on these corporations. it's just terrible behavior and so j daing to the united states. i just got back from afghanistan right before christmas. i met with lots of u.s. soldiers there. it's appropriate and easy to say we have so many good soldiers and officers in combat. and that these are the exception, but it is terribly damaging. these images will persist. they'll persi

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green giant >>> tonight, video posted on line could spark a scandal that mirrors that of abu ghraib.> appears to show them urinating on taliban fighters. now, how international rights groups are responding. >> the marine corps has not verified the awe then ticht of the vipdo but they told nbc news the video ann peers to be legitimate. this youtube video which we are only showing as a still image could spark outrage, showing what appears to be four u.s. marines urinating on four courses of taliban fighters in afghanistan. the men are believed to be from a sniper team based out of camp lejeune in north carolina. officials say the video is disturbing. >> that's a human. i just think it's horrible. as an american, i think it's a great shame. >> the men stand over the bodies in a semicircle dressed in full combat gear. you hear one marine say what seems like profanity. >> desecrating a body is very serious. >> the council on american islamic relations agrees and condemns this. >> individuals who did this unbefitting act should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. >> they say the