and after abu ghraib, he offered to resign. after abu ghraib initially.nd president bush didn't accept it. he later offered again. but you don't see that very much anymore. it's a lost -- it's a lost custom. >> if this, though, it is sort of interesting that this -- i don't think she is down in the sort of the rooms trying to figure out the computer programs or something, because it is sort of a specialized area. i mean, i don't know who hired, who did it and who promised what, but it seems unlikely to me that she is hands-on. it would be totally a symbolic gesture. >> such gestures are. normally when something goes terribly wrong inside a department, the buck stops where? according to the old tradition, it stops at the top. presumably, there would be consequences. but as i say, that's an old custom. and we just don't see much of that anymore. you see it in places like japan, but you don't see it here. you don't see it in this country. >> how bad is this roll-out? are we just hitting a couple of speed bumps because we're only on the -- it sounds bad to me

. >> the litany, whether you're talking about blackwater, what happened in iraq, abu ghraib, edward snowdon, are there going to be embarrassed government because of malfeasance of the contractor? >> i this there is a number of things hat play here. within the scope of the government contracting expanded, it's easy to point to some of the failures, and certainly those failures have been pretty massive. but government contracting isn't a new thing. my previous firm booz allen first started providing support to the u.s. navy during world waworldwar ii in 1940. and then the work of nasa in the 60s and 70s, a lot of that was driven by the contractors and consultants, and there were failures back then. one of the early shuttles could not operate because the computer systems were not able to talk to one another. it sounds a little bit familiar. i think you will continue to see some problems. but i think a lot of that is driven by the fact that we're working with highly complex programs. oftentimes you have multiple fronts collaborating on these assignments, and you might not have a technical confi

, the financial crisis, you can talk about the enron scandal, you can talk about guantanamo and abu ghraib. there are a lot of things that make america the greatest country in the world. it's the largest economy where people want to come. they're not trying to swim from miami to cuba. they're coming the other way. that's still true. but america's ability to talk about its exceptional values, its indispensability is met with derision internationally and the chinese government is more than happy to write articles in their state media in the last two days talking about deamericaization that is hurting america's value projection. >> i think we've taken a hit and that would cost us potentially in basis points of it interest, but the issue out there, which has been really true for the last several years, there is an alternative. europe really fumbled the ball when it came to the possibility of creating a global reserve alternative. china is nowhere close to having that level of trust. so i think we sneak by by default here and i don't mean that in the sense of default on the bonds. i think by de

iraq, i was there with my colleagues pushing the system to get to the truth about the abuses at abu ghraibhe other foot and it is disappointing. they haven't provided the basics about benghazi. do you believe you understand what happened in benghazi? can you tell me how the story started that this was a protest gone bad when everybody on the ground in real-time reported a terrorist attack? >> have they not made these people available even on a confidential classified basis before the intelligence committees for example? >> it is mine understanding that the survivors, state department, personnel who survived the consulate attack, one, of that group has been interviewed by the house. and the cia agents at the amnex have not been interviewed by the intelligence committee of the house and senate. i think the house and senate needs to do that. to have an independent look at what happened in benghazi and i want the fbi intervause, 48 hours after the attack, probably the best evidence we have of what actually happened in benghazi. >> when you asked for all of this what did they say to you? >> tak

and i think it's, once again, a problem of a bias mainstream media. >> abu ghraib, 20 years ago, alls kind of a joke reference to remember the hippies had the -- never trust a liberal over on 3. joshua did not but i asked him if he liked the title, anyway, and he liked it so i stayed with it. especially republicans. i wanted a particularly good column comparing attorney generals. remember they were hysterical about alberto gonzalez? and i wasn't a big fan of his, but i went through number of civilians killed by this attorney general compared to other attorney generals. number of innocent boys, number of innocent men sent to prison. janet reno provided over one of the -- remember the child mow le molestatition case. there were hysterical soccer moms putting four people in prison not only for crimes they didn't commit, but for crimes that never happened. janet reno did that and they have the you a das toy to complain about gonzalez? >> the book is "never trust a liberal over 3." >> you can still beat them when they're under 3. >> you know, ann, you're famous for your opinions. i don't

you had renditions, you had abu ghraib, you had the war in iraq, you had a whole bunch of issues. we're going to change all that, we're going to deliver a different message so that we can build broader support. and i think it's fair to say at this point five years into it that that really hasn't worked. that at this point, and i haven't seen any polling data, but if you were to poll people amongst our allies in europe, you know, in the muslim world and elsewhere that the level of support for the united states is probably about back to where it was during the bush administration. now, that's not the beall and end all of this. we're not trying to protect our national security in thinking that the number one goal there is for everyone to like us. that's not the approach. but it is an important element. and i think one of the more troubling things is not just the lack of support that we see from some of our allies, but domestically here in the u.s. some of the central underpinnings of our campaign to try to contain al-qaeda and win that broader ideological war are not as supported in

you hat renditions, abu ghraib, the war in iraq.e're going to figure our houston to work cooperatively with the rest of the world, deliver a different messaging so we can build broader support. at it fire say that this point, five years into it, that really hasn't worked. that at this opinion -- i haven't seen any polling at that time a but if you or two poll people amongst our allies in europe, in the muslim world and elsewhere, that the level of support for the united states is probably about back to where it was during the bush administration. now, that's not the be-all and end-all of this. we're not a trying to protect our national security and thinking the number one goal there is for everyone to like us. but it is an important element. and i think one of the more troubling things, not just the lack of support that we see from some of our allies but domestically here in the u.s., the central underpinnings of our campaign to try to contain al qaeda and win the broader ideaolal war, are not as supported in this country as we woul

you had renditions, abu ghraib, the war in iraq. well, we are going to change all that and find out how to work cooperative the with the rest of the world to deliver a different message so that we can build a broad support. and i think it is fair to say at this .5 years in to it that that really hasn't worked to it at this point i haven't seen any polling data but if you were to pull people in the allies in europe, the muslim world and elsewhere, that the level of support of the united states was probably about back to where it was during the bush administration. that isn't to be the end all of this. we are not trying to protect the national security thinking the number one goal is for everyone to like us. but it is an important element and i think one of the more troubling things is not just a lack of support that we see from some of the allies but domestically. some of the central underpinnings of the campaign to try to come to an al qaeda and when that broad ideological war. they are not has supported in this country as we would

during the bush years when they made mistakes and they made plenty of them, the 9/11 commission abu ghraibyou have first ambassador killed in 33 years in the line of duty and benghazi and almost 14 months after the fact the congress has only been allowed to talk to one person who survived the attack, won't make the witnesses available for congressional oversight purposes and within 48 hours of the attack the fbi interviewed the survivors in germany and it is my belief the survivors never told the fbi there was a protest. jay carney the president and susan rice claimed there was no evidence of an al qaeda connection, it was not preplanned it was a protest spawned by hateful video that went bad. my belief the fbi interviews two days after should be released to the congress so we can see if whether or not there was evidence that there was never a protest. >> is there another way to do th this? janet yellen leading the federal reserve arguably one of the most important positions leading in washington in the coming years ahead. >> absolutely, yes. >> is it fair to hold up one part of government