the abu ghraib pictures raise the question where were the doctors while this was going on either they directly would asleep use or they witnessed the consequences of it why hadn't they protested. here the doctors were complicit they were the center piece of torture they were enablers they were to so it caters they will authorize years. from a poverty is to now the standard for the healing professions has been simple that obligation is first and foremost to the patient's interest while being torture satyrs that cover. how have american physicians and psychologists come to sanction and implement torture in our military prisons and why haven't they been held accountable for their actions. on. tonight we are a country awakened to danger. and called to defend freedom whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies. justice will be done. i. less than three weeks later u.s. forces invaded afghanistan in retaliation to the september eleventh terrorist attacks on the united states. in a radical new policy the bush administration declared afghan prisoners enemy combatant

the american public does not hear much about dr involvement in detainee abuse since the abu ghraib scandal both administrations have gone to great lengths to present detainee treatment as humane. we're going to try that. right now we're going to treat them mainly. react to their answer. the press is giving tours of modern medical facilities in guantanamo and army psychologist who report on the condition of detainees make no mention of symptoms of trauma. diagnosis we see are the same ones we see in the state the main or most problem diagnosing diagnosis here are personality disorders. do you see any signs of disparate but in some data it's. not really well. made that a few of them have maybe well. maybe a few of them. i can't i don't know really any specific details though where they have done anything. out of desperation. doctors that detention sites are divided between those who work in treatment services and those who work under the intelligence command although the two are officially set. there are many reports of doctors in the medical services supporting the programs of the intellige

it's abu ghraib, it's mistreatment of prisoners, all of the things that have damaged the image in the world. >> are you still if favor of closing guantonomo? >> yes, i am. >> we should close guantonomo and work with our allies and work with our allies to forge a new international understanding on the disposition of dangerous detainees under our control. >> there are some tough calls to make about how to dispose of those detainee was remain stuck at gitmo, prosecuting terrorists in our federal courts is not a tough call at all. it's the national strategy and it's how prosecutors pursue the bombers and the unify bomber and oklahoma city bomber, well, dozens of other terrorists. when people say we shouldn't prosecute terrorists in our courts, they're making a long standing precedence sounds like a new obama experiment. it's hard to take that seriously. maybe that's why talk in manhattan the daily show treated right wing complaints as a joke. >> incredibly, former federal prosecutor david kelly, who convicted ramzi youset, the uss coal bombers and martha stewart thinks we should try them

should he trust those who send us the -- >> accompanied by photos of the torture of prisoners at abu ghraib. called a horrible act that exploits a young soldier. over the course of the next year, more videos were released with bergdahl sounding more and more hopeless. >> let me go. get me to come home. release me, you know. every day i want to go home. >> and then, saying nothing at all. the bergdahl family watching their son change before their eyes grew increasingly frustrated. bowe's older sister sky posted on her blog, i'm relying on god's time in this but i'm quite disappointed in my american people, my american forces and my president in particular. >> these people here will not leave you on the battlefield. your country will not leave you on the battlefield. you are not forgotten. >> jani and bob started speaking out at rallies and to reporters. >> i wake up each morning and my first thought is my son is still prisoner of war in afghanistan. and i need to do something about that. >> bob bergdahl retired after his 28 years as a u.p.s. driver devoted himself full-time to studying the w

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. >> well, one of the worrying things is that isis is moving into abu ghraib. and isis has had prison breaks in the past, including some last year, so that's a real concern. whether they move to abu ghraib and release other sort of islamist militants to help them go against baghdad. we have seen clashes in the southern neighborhood, so certainly isis is moving much closer to baghdad which is a big worry for sure. and for oil and gas investors in the country. >> i bet the iraq government was actually asking prisoners to return to the prison because how much of a lame duck it seems they are right now. at what point do you think we get a response from the west, even from the arab league, because they made comments over the weekend saying they want to see greater political dialogue. what do we have to see here to see a greater response or any kind of response, frankly? >> a very real threat to baghdad. i think also if you start seeing a greater humanitarian crisis with half a million people flee mosul. the city fell a few days ago and is now under the control of th

abu ghraib and iraq. we had an open hearing. we put all of our dirty laundry for people out there to see. now, when it comes time to this release they will want to do it behind closed doors. that will not stand. i have been a military leader for years. these people are not prisoners of war. enemy combatants, members of the terrorist organization. the war is not over when we leave afghanistan. we're fighting al qaeda, their affiliates and people who provide military support like the taliban. these people will go back to the fight. president obama has put americans at risk all over the planet and these people will go back to afghanistan as sure as night follows day. >> all right. ed o'keefe of the "the washington post" just published an article online which says that this discussion about five detainees being released goes back to 2011 with congress. >> yes. every time the president asked we said hell no. panetta said. no gates said no. dianne feinstein said no. lindsey graham said. no why would anybody in their right behind relea

after thousands freed at abu ghraib prison but analysts say the territory is what's giving them legitimacyis. >> the man who leads them, somebody that we had at a u.s. prison compound in iraq until 2009. and i'm reading now and i just checked this online that he's now recruiting fighters from other affiliates including al qaeda's yemen branch and al shabaab. how does that group compare to al qaeda? >> of course, he is. the group is actually born out of al qaeda. isis' leader was the leader of al qaeda in iraq. last year, he expanded into syria and attempted to leave the movement causing infighting with al qaeda and ultimately a split. well shg well, isis uses more brutal attack. one analyst i spoke with isis has gained al qaeda. >> i think it's more focused on iraq and changing the middle east. they're not as interested in attacks against the u.s. we can see value in attacks against the u.s. and person targets. and there's also the risk of foreigners that came to fight in iraq and syria coming back to the west. but this is not the real focus of isis. >> and, harris, he also said, there's,

. >> if you compare this to abu ghraib 10 years ago, when media really thinks something is a scandalput it on front page of "new york times" and front page of nightly news, first section of the nightly news every night for a month or a year and then everybody knows it is a scandal. i agree completely with alan on dimensions of the va scandal. a stain on america, not just the obama administration. obviously problem is going on for a while. when the report, read it, as you said, jon, the corrosive culture and so on, make it sound like entire place ought to be overhauled and not just a few leaders and so on but again the mainstream media are more interested in other stories than this one. >> we just pointed out even news busters, which generally goes after so-called liberal media pointed out both cbs, nbc gave it fair amount of coverage on saturday newscast. >> not saturation coverage. jon: cbs on friday. >> never will be enough for certain people who want to blast the media, somehow claiming that the media is always protecting the obama administration but, i go back to what i just said

which is the way that they are heading, they have already established some sort of beach heads in abu ghraibit would be considerably easier than it would have been, say, ten years ago. >> richard, obviously there's no significant u.s. troop presence in iraq anymore in any part of iraq, but in terms of the american presence more broadly, are there a lot of american civilians, american contractors, other people that are involved in some ongoing way with sort of nation-building efforts there that are now potentially thinking about getting out? >> reporter: security companies have already been advising contractors to get out and get out now, to evacuate immediately. and some mandatory evacuations have begun from contractors at balad air base, that that evacuation is going to be continuing tomorrow as well. we don't know exactly how many contractors and diplomats, american contractors and diplomats, there are here. we've contacted u.s. aid, the state department, the white house. and for security reasons, they don't want to put a number. it is several thousand. it is probably somewhere between 2,0

the abu ghraib other embarrassments have a very small part of the picture.the men and women of the u.s. military. now for the current iraq mess. president obama understands take over the use as safe haven launch attacks all over the place including on america itself. >> we have enormous interests there and obviously our troops and the american people and a the american taxpayers made huge investments and sacrifices in order to give iraqis the opportunity to chart a better course, a better destiny. but ultimately they are going to have to seize it. as i said before, we are not going to be able to do it for them. >> and that's true. we are not going to be be able to solve the internal problems of the iraqis. that being said, i fully expect president obama to begin bombing the al qaeda army very soon. if he does not do that, it was be an enormous dereliction of duty. he is the commander and chief. al qaeda wants to kill us. so he must send a message to them and to the largely cowardly world. we will not allow savages to disseminate the world. that is the messag

in between coming all the way down to the outskirts of baghdad, coming right down to the area of abu ghraib, not far from the baghdad airport. so a large portion of the country. and the iraqi government, the iraqi armed forces haven't been able to do bmuch about it. their forces were overrun. today along the jordanian border, they withdrew before they got into a fight. you see here today, as we were just hearing from andrea mitchell, that secretary kerry here wants political changes. he wants maliki to convene a new government quickly. but it's not entirely clear that putting together a new government, reshuffling the same deck is going to have any impact here. the problems are far greater than that. you have two parts of the country, in fact, that have broken away from baghdad. you have the jihadistan area, a term u.s. officials are using when they describe this region, that you have this very violent sunni area, and then you have the kurdish area, which is operating independently. and then you have baghdad and the south. so if you just reshuffle the deck here in baghdad and there's no ind

off, after the horrific events of abu ghraib in iraq, were people tortured and mistreated detainees,this happened on our watch before i came into office, and set -- it set in motion a whole series of things. much more oversight by congress on detention matters, culminating in the mccain amendment. one of the internal mechanisms we arranged with congress was that every quarter, i or the previous deputy secretary or my successor would go up to all ofs and show them the international committee of the red cross correspondence. they are the international body that goes into places of detention and talks to detainees and has a confidential dialogue with us. itill not go into what consists of because that would violate confidentiality. we would show congress that and how we responded. we clearly notified congress before we brought the 14 high-value cia detainees of fighting -- out of hiding in the cia to guantanamo in september 2006. congressmen and women have been to guantanamo and places of detention from the very beginning. i had the privilege of taking many myself from both parties in 2

their sights closer to baghdad looking at the sunni areas on the outskirts of the capital like abu ghraib. the push feels like the momentum is picking back up. that's one of the things worrying secretary of state john kerry. >> we know that secretary of state john kerry is in the region, do we have any indication what the governments in baghdad and elsewhere in the region are expecting from him? >> reporter: well, we've had clearly from president obama that he wants an inclusive government and what people are reading between the lines of that here is that al maliki's government has not been inclusive and many of the shia complaints are what has given rise to a lot of support from the sunni tribes. many of the sunni complaints i should say, has been what's given rise to the support that isis is enjoying from among the sunni tribes. so the concern is that it can't just be business as usual. whatever it is the u.s. does to try and hold back the floodgates of isis, will that be bolstering a government that has proven that it can't move iraq into the new stage, can that be the government -- th

but at the same time, it's a dig at how the americans treat their detainees in guantanamo bay or abu ghraibn which they are in orange jumpsuits. i think they were trying to make themselves look better in this case. >> we know how brutal the taliban are, especially the haqqani network. he was being held by the haqqani network. they are brutal. there's no doubt about that. what do they mean he wanted him to go home with, quote, good memories? >> well, i think part of it is this warrior ethic. look, you killed us, meaning americans, and we kill americans and that's part of the war but on a human-to-human level, we're still people and we're going to treat humans the way we want to be treated. so i think it was an attempt to make the best of a bad situation and acknowledging that it's uncomfortable. >> you've done excellent reporting from inside afghanistan/pakistan. you're now in beirut. what do you anticipate in the weeks and months to come. are we going to see more of this? >> out of afghanistan, the opportunities for kidnapping on this scale are going to be very, very limited, especially as

in addition, one of the things that helped them out is they had a prison break last july at abu ghraib were at least 500 individuals were released from prison. some of these guys were arrested surge.ained during the many of these had experiences which further provided more levels of competency to isis' operation. of course, we saw earlier this year that they were able to take ramadilluja and parts of . another aspect of what isis has been doing that we did not say last decade and is one of the reasons why people -- the backlash against them originally was they had a hearts and minds strategy, whether it is providing food, medication, religious classes, outreach to tribal figures, as well as allowing people in the safaa movement to repent and join their cause about getting killed. therefore, more and more victories have raised the level of prestige for this organization. isis operatives now operate in both syria and iraq and view the border as nothing more than going from one province in their islamic state to another, not going from one nation say to the other. lfter most sold -- after

abu ghraib was the direct result of being overwhelmed by circumstances on the ground. we thought that once the iraqi army disbanded, saddam hussein was displaced that we would be able to handle iraq with a few thousand troops. the bush administration was wrong in that calculation. senator mccain spoke up and the surge did work. to president bush's undying credit, you corrected the mistakes that happened on your watch. you kept an open mind, and you changed strategy because the strategy that you originally pursued had failed. president obama, your strategy has failed. the idea of abandoning iraq, disengaging politically and militarily, has come home to haunt us as a nation. senator mccain and myself said back in 11, if we do not leave a residual force behind as an insurance policy for our own national security interests, we will regret it. 10,000 to 15,000 soacialtion well-placed, would have given capacity to the iraqi a army to allow them to be more effective than what you see on the ground today would never happen. i am convinced that isis would never be in iraq the w

if you're not, i can inform you because i served as surgeon at abu ghraib prison in '05-'06. we had a program for some of our worst ennemies, if they were to be fatally ill we'd release them to their families. called a compassionate release. this is a policy of the united states. did we ask them for a compassionate release if indeed our soldier was so sick that we had to move so quickly, did we ask them for a compassionate release in the manner that we perform as the united states of america? >> not to my knowledge. >> thank you. so we do -- >> i might add though, congressman -- >> yes, sir. >> the taliban, as you know, you have some experience, which i thank you for that service. they don't play by the same rules. >> that's my point. that is exactly my point, mr. secretary. i thank you for verifying for the case i'm trying to make. we play by a set of rules as a decent people. and we are not dealing with decent people here. yet we acted as though we were. and we acted as though we were releasing decent people. and we are not. and i would ask you, does anyone here really thin

if you're not, i can inform you because i served as surgeon at abu ghraib prison in '05-'0 6. for some of our worst enemies, if they were to be fatally ill, we'd release them to their families. called a compassionate release. this is a policy of the united states. did we ask them for a compassate release fin deed our soldier was so sick that we had to move so quickly, did we ask them for a compassionate release in the manner that we perform as the united states of america? >> not to my knowledge. >> thank you. so we do -- >> i might add though, congressman -- >> yes, sir. >> the taliban, as you know, you have some experience, which i thank you for that service. they don't play by the same rules. >> that's my point. that is exactly my point, mr. secretary. i thank you for verifying for the case i'm trying to make. we play by a set of rules as a decent people. and we are not dealing with decent people here. yet we acted as though we were. and we acted as though we were releasing decent people. and we are not. and i would ask you, does anyone here really think that the world is a

off, after the horrific events of abu ghraib in iraq, were people tortured and mistreated detainees,appened on our watch before i came into office, and set -- it set in motion a whole series of things. much more oversight by congress on detention matters, culminating in the mccain amendment. one of the internal mechanisms we arranged with congress was that every quarter, i or the previous deputy secretary or my successor would go up to all ofs and show them the international committee of the red cross correspondence. they are the international body that goes into places of detention and talks to detainees and has a confidential dialogue with us. itill not go into what consists of because that would violate confidentiality. we would show congress that and how we responded. we clearly notified congress before we brought the 14 high-value cia detainees of fighting -- out of hiding in the cia to guantanamo in september 2006. congressmen and women have been to guantanamo and places of detention from the very beginning. i had the privilege of taking many myself from both parties in 2006-20