risen reveals how after the abu ghraib torture scandal, the apa formed a task force that backed the continuedrole of psychologists in the program. one official from the association wrote an email expressing gratitude to an intelligence official saying -- "your views were well represented by the very carefully selected task force members." the international soccer organization fifa has published an internal report clearing russia and qatar of corruption in their bids for the world cups in 2018 and 2022. the move came despite records of illegal payments by qatari officials, which were noted in the report, and the destruction of computers and disappearance of emails related to russia's bid. the announcement caused an internal rift within fifa after the investigator whose evidence was used in the report denounced the conclusions, calling them "incomplete and erroneous." a new report by the department of homeland security details the cascading series of mistakes which allowed a man wielding a knife to scale a fence and enter the white house. the report obtained by "the new york times" found the se

you get people more emotionally motivated by, for example, abu ghraib photographs. kids will not be ideologically motivated. they might be emotionally motivated to say america is bad. the flip side is if we can flip the tide against al qaeda, the same emotional trigger that got them to believe that, you might be able to conviction them as an 8 or 10-year-old, that's not right and switch them back. >> you heard him talk about possibly hundreds of thousands of children and you see the video of these kids, all those boys were, what? 7 to 10 years old, chanting with such enthusiasm. and some of them are much younger. 4 and 5. that is just very hard to watch. it brings tears to your eyes. >> you have to think about the time frame. we tend to think in tex days or weeks or months. we've been involved in iraq for more than a decade. somebody who was 12 years old ten years ago is now perfectly capable of -- if that person was radicalized ten years ago, they're a fully pledged fighter. the half life of an insurgency is a decade. we're only a few months into this counter campa

confinement that he faced in 1981, and flashforwards to what we see in places like guantÁnamo and abu ghraibn you think about the base humiliation they put him through and the way they really tortured him. this idea you can put someone in a confined estate and they won't them, ising, you mace ludicrous and torturous. that is what led mark to plead to a life sentence. talks i want to interrupt you with another clip of "the life and mind of mark defriest." he is explaining an escape attempt that involved lsd. >> that was mark defriest explaining his escape attempt that involved lsd. that explains why the guards hate him. >> he is a joker. he made a self portrait of himself as a clown in a straitjacket. he became a great illustrator in prison. we ended up in a meeting a lot of the scenes to bring them back to life. we worked with a company based in toronto. >> it is astounding, the illustrations, the animation. >> yes, in a was really a way to bring people into the cell with him and cushions the blow when he see the torture that he went through in the darker pieces of this film, it is a way of

that wasn't done with the church committee, iran contra or abu ghraib. what c.i.a.recedented and what's clear is they're interested in obscuring the facts and covering up a really accurate narrative. >> woodruff: senator ron wyden, member of the senate intelligence committee, thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: for perspective from the c.i.a. side, joining us now is john rizzo, who spent thirty-four years in the agency's office of general counsel. he's also the author of the book "company man" about his time in the c.i.a. so, john rozzi, you heard what senator wyden was saying. he said this is unprecedented what the c.i.a. is asking for. >> first of all, i should make clear i have not seen the report, not for a lack of trying. several weeks ago, i and former c.i.a. officials who were deeply involved in the program asked for an opportunity to at least read it before it's released to the world. so i have no idea, as we sit here today, anything about the content of the report. as for the use of pseudonyms, again, it's all context. >> woodruff: and we should clarify a

here is my question, when the pictures from abu ghraib surfaced and the waterboarding technique surfaced liberals in this country, the liberal media was on that so big with outcry. and everybody was so upset. why is this media, why does the liberal media and why are americans not upset men americans are getting their heads cut off. we have terrorists cutting off american heads and it barely gets a blip on the radar. if we don't start doing what is necessary to combat terrorism, and i can discuss that, if we don't start doing what is necessary, you better believe it's coming to america. and then the hillary clintons of the world who are so accustomed to going, what difference dutz it make? it's going to make a real difference when it is here on our grounds. >> 100%. what do we need to do differently? >> well, first of all, we have to inhibit recruiting. i've said this many times. if we don't get the terrorists to where they can't recruit fresh blood, we're never going to defeat them. here's what you don't do. you don't capture them, bring them to america, bring them and feed them better t