in abu ghraib, not only not a single senior office that went to trial, not a single fini office. they got a recall letter of reprimand. in fact, in some cases, they even got promoted at the offices. so it's, it's the people at the top always take care of the people at the top. mm. for those individuals who were directed by the us government to, to engage in any technique that i believe would price level torture, crore and human or degrading treatment. i think they lose a little bit of themselves every time they have to come in and human act. and am i markers out to them as well? i frankly in, i don't think i noticed that until i got back and then you know, tremendous guilt. and i think a lot of us develop signs that were later diagnosed as p p. s. d, but i don't know. i think that they have another name for now and i think it was, it's called like moral moral failure. so to assistance is feeling that people come back with after being in war. if they feel like they think they've done things better outside of their moral compass, ah, we're still evaluating how we're gonna approach

it wasn't really until the photographs from abu ghraib were released, which were just, you know, the tip of the iceberg of what was actually happening. that people in this country began actually talking about it what we did in a lab was exactly the way to do. and if i had to work on it all over, yeah, exactly the right. same course of actions that we did exactly with ferris in them. all. not all of them i can differently whether one does 1600 of them. we've only seen up in about 20 maybe 30 is 1600 and they, they are the worst ones are. are the ones we haven't seen? ah, who so yes they were violating. i know it's our regulations and what they were doing, but they were operating within a system in which they were condition they were structured in order to violate those loss when you arrived at the wave where you aware of what had happened there. oh, almost immediately after we arrived that i would grab we, we were briefed that there was misconduct, but we weren't given details. and the interrogators that i knew who had been there during that time didn't. they didn't talk about it. so

america did this after abu ghraib.that george bush as president was rponsible or ordered abu ghraib. nick: president biden said tonight that the saudis, "share the urgency about lowering oil pres." will saudi arabia push for opec plus to increase oil production in the next few weeks? mr. al-jubeir: saudi arabia's policy has always been to make sure that there are adequate supplies of oil that go to the markets. nick: adequate is a different word than the president used. mr. al-jubeir: whatever the markets need. we try to ensure that the markets are adequately supplied. this has been our policy for a number of decades. nick: that, with all due respect, that doesn't sound like you're going to increase production in the next few weeks as the president hinted. mr. al-jubeir: no, we have increased production over the last nine months, um, tremendously. there will be an opec meeting on the 3rd of august, i believe, and decisions will be made with regards to whether the market needs more crude or not. so it is not a yes or no

did when the mistake of abu ghraib was committed. amy: that is saudi foreign minister adel al-jubeir on cnn. >> i think his credibility is zero. he is a lying liar. previously went on international media to claim saudi arabia had not killed jamal khashoggi, that in fact he had left the embassy -- rather the consulate on his own accord. he represents the government that had someone dressed up as jamal khashoggi to walk out of thconsulate to prete that jamal left. i think we can't take anything that adel al-jubeir says with a boulder of salt because he has a tragic record of lying. at the same time, we have to understand that this is the price of non-accountability. this is the price we pay when our president fist bumps a murderer. we are giving them license to say, "oh, well, really can't be that bad if you're president is fist bumping with a murderer." president biden has put us in an impossible decision, to tell the mac and people that he told him that he believed he was responsible but proceeded to fist bump with him and have a chu

makes a mistake at abu ghraib.e bombings that have happened in afghanistan where multiple civilians have been killed. it's the responsibility of a country to act on those mistakes, to make sure that they are investigated, they don't happen again. the kingdom did this just as the u.s. does this. we expect to be held to the same standard, not a higher standard than the u.s. holds itself. >> he also pointed out there are significant issues not raised. you cannot address these issues in a selective way. you have to be consistent. >> and the president has also taken heat for only bringing up the case of jamal khashoggi, where you have others, the women's rights activist who was released from jail. there are other people who don't have the freedoms that perhaps they should deserve in saudi arabia. these are human rights values that president biden is taking heat on for not bringing up. how is this a shared relation, really a shared relationship, if there's commonality on human rights? >> i don't see that they are differe

issues that have occurred in the past like abu ghraib, for example. by the way, the saudi minister of state for foreign affairs, when i interviewed him yesterday, he made the same point. the u.s. intelligence community doesn't always get it right, they may be wrong, and he pointed to the fact that going into iraq, there were no iraqi weapons of mass destruction. they got it wrong then. and he made the point in the interview with us, this is the saudi minister of state for foreign affairs, that the u.s. is getting it wrong now as far as the crown prince's involvement in the murder of the journalist. >> and that's not surprising for the saudis to say that, they have tried that tactic before, and they argued that president biden was less forceful in pushing back on the prince. of course there are differences coming out of that meeting. the saudis will say one thing, u.s. officials are going to say one thing. i do think it's important that when president biden came out last night and he said he pushed back on the saudi crown prince, that he said that he p

it wasn't really until the photographs from abu ghraib were released, which were just, you know, the tip of the iceberg of what was actually happening. that people in this country began actually talking about it what we did in arrived was exactly what to do. and i had to recommend all over the recommend exactly the right. same course of actions. sorry, we're gonna interrupt our schedule programming here because russia's foreign minister survey laugh rob is now addressing the media after sitting down for talks with his hungarian counterpart. let's take a listener, what he's saying, continue working on the construction of the nuclear power plant function would be some participation of the rest of the national incorporation. and the agreements that were assigned cover the entire life cycle of the station from construction up to providing you will and maintenance. we are considering this project as a strategic and its scale and due to its higher knowledge of corporate character. and we also, in financing with projects in exporting rushing energy, the interests of our countries are like t

washington is not innocent either, and pointed to violation was at the notorious abu ghraib prison during the us occupation of iraq with more on how jo biden's middle east. tor has dashed washington's hopes for a grand returned to the region. one years ortiz, paulus lear, she would have definitely had to do with finance for day, middle east trip his over. but the question what actually achieved is still up in the air. his bed for more and she put oil, has been blown out of the water. i want to see the impact of this visit. i suspect you won't see that for another couple weeks. we, i'd say that come up east, it's oil production, bianca, $13000000.00 barrels a day. and off to shunning the kingdom over the 2018 killing of southeastern is jamal. cash okey. all eyes were on what might and would say to the conference i in thank you. thank you. thank you. that's exactly what bite enabled saudi arabia while on his campaign trail back in 2019. but now fighting his tongue, he came asking for a favor while still trying to save his own face. correct, calling out of saudis. prior to anything, i said t

did george bush authorise or know about what happened in abu ghraib? of course not.a mistake committed by people who either did it intentionally or exceeded their authority. what did the us government do? exactly what we did. they investigated, they punished, and they put in place mechanisms to ensure that this doesn't happen again. and so the argument that we did this, that saudi arabia is guilty as a country or as a government or as a leadership to me is ridiculous. can you hold other governments responsible or presidents or heads of state for actions that were committed by people outside the scope of their authority? thanks to anna. so, there was the issue of human rights. also, of course, there was also the issue of oil with prices rising in the us. mark finley is an energy expert with rice university's baker institute. he joins us from washington. very good to have you with us. perhaps you can talk our viewers through a little bit about why it's so important for the us to have access to saudi oil or indeed that of the gulf states?— of the gulf states? thanks for

did george bush organise or know about what happened in abu ghraib? of course not. it was a mistake committed by people who either did it intentionally or exceeded their authority. what did the us government do? exactly what we did. they investigated, they punished and they put in place mechanisms to ensure this does not happen again. and so the argument that we did this, that saudi arabia is guilty as a country or government or as a leadership, to me is ridiculous. can you hold other governments responsible, or presidents, or heads of state, for actions that were committed by people outside the scope of their authority? of course not. it is hot out there. here is susan powell with a look at the weather picture. hello. the uk faces the prospect of extreme heat in the days ahead. the met office has issued a red level warning for monday and tuesday, where it is anticipated rising temperatures will have impact on infrastructure and just the way we can go about our day—to—day lives. portugal and spain have experienced crippling heat through the last week, and the heat i

did george bush organise or know about what happened in abu ghraib? of course not.unished and they put in place mechanisms to ensure this does not happen again. and so the argument that we did this, that saudi arabia is guilty as a country or government or as a leadership, to me is ridiculous. can you hold other governments responsible, or presidents, or heads of state, for actions that were committed by people outside the scope of their authority? of course not.

did when the mistake of abu ghraib was committed. this is what the u.s. and others in situations that involve combat operations or involve any situation where somebody transgresses or makes a mistake. >> the saudi minister of state for foreign affairs, ade llal jabeer speaking to me yesterday. >>> let's head over to some other top stories, kim. >> thanks, wolf. >>> the military stepping up plans across the board. they're all coming under rocket or artillery fire saturday morning. some are still reeling from similar strikes the day before. dnipro was hit by a barrage of rockets yesterday that killed at least two people. left three elderly people dead. ukraine says it pushed back to gain more ground in the donbas region, and that includes repelling an attack aimed at a strategic highway. scott mclean joins us live from kyiv. let's start with the latest attack in odesa. what more can you tell us? >> hey, kim, yeah. my colleague, ivan watson, has managed to get to the scene. he said the air raid sirens had gone off in the industrial airy in speaking to the fo

s. committed is military prison in abu ghraib, and then more recently, of course, the killing of her own journalist, sri, an abu al clay, the fact that the u. s. president, at least in public, did not confront these railey government over that of murder. despite the fact that are killing rather despite the fact that the 2 investigations point to these rallies for potentially being responsible for her death. so this is uncomfortable for the u. s. president. he now has to go back. i. he said he came here to get the saudi government to pump more oil to hasn't secured that deal and he hasn't been able to lower the gas prices that americans would like him to do so it's going to be difficult for the president. right. yeah. and kimberly all my notes, i mean how my all of this play into domestic politics back home in the states. i had a midterms in november. yeah, that's the big problem for the president because americans are pretty unhappy with joe biden, and they weren't happy before. he made this trip and he didn't do anything to make it better as so it's hard to imagine that his poll numb

reportedly by others is that in the conversation with president biden that the crown prince pointed out abu ghraib other examples of human rights abuses. that is in line with my experience when i interview people in the region and i raise it all the time and they throw it back on us. that needs be a part of the conversation. it expresses a desire among people of the region in places like saudi arabia, egypt, iran, across the region, the record is not good. we play a unique role relative to russia and china in prioritizing that. host: i have to ask you about the fist bump in the picture on the front page of the new york times. the washington post publisher said the fist bump between president biden and it was worse than a handshake but was shameful and offered this level of intimacy that gives him unwarranted redemption that he has been desperately seeking. do you agree? guest: it is part of our discussion and debate. i agree that the image of this is hurtful for a lot of people, especially those who want to stand up for imminent rights and freedom. i also think the president of the united states h

reportedly by others is that in the conversation with president biden that the crown prince pointed out abu ghraib other examples of human rights abuses. that is in line with my experience when i interview people in the region and i raise it all the time and they throw it back on us. that needs be a part of the conversation. it expresses a desire among people of the region in places like saudi arabia, egypt, iran, across the region, the record is not good. we play a unique role relative to russia and china in prioritizing that. host: i have to ask you about the fist bump in the picture on the front page of the new york times. the washington post publisher said the fist bump between president biden and it was worse than a handshake but was shameful and offered this level of intimacy that gives him unwarranted redemption that he has been desperately seeking. do you agree? guest: it is part of our discussion and debate. i agree that the image of this is hurtful for a lot of people, especially those who want to stand up for imminent rights and freedom. i also think the president of the united states h