moreover we gave it to abu maza and we gave it to fatah, but they took over and this precise thing would happen in the tbarchg we did it. the -- the west bank if we did it. the notion of taking a state israel as the size of new jersey and cutting off the heart of the state handing it over to arab muslims is crazy. it's not going to happen. and i think that more and more people are realizing, that this is not the right approach and there's growing attraction to my plan, in which the palestinians govern themselves in their own areas, israel annex the other territories. freedom of movement and each can live peacefully next to each other. >> it looks quite appealing but you use this expression the arabs govern themselves, the palestinians govern themselves, areas a and b they don't get to govern them on a coupl themselve themselves on particular areas, borders and entry and exit defense. >> we can control the borders as long as we don't have grandchildren from palestinian refugees from 1948 flowing in from syria and jordan. >> why not? grandchildren of jews can go to israel. >> arabs and mus