abu mazen told me, basically, i cannot see coming back into the gaza strip. i didn't like the answer, but i cannot tell you that didn't carry certain logic into it, but it was 15 years ago now after we have another 15 years of peace with egypt and jordan and after we have the abraham accords just two and a half weeks ago we already discussed the trilateral deal with the united states. so the arabian and israel and hamas pointing to the timing of the attack that they prepared for more than a year now in order to torpedo exactly this trilateral deal which is perceived by them and ignoring the palestinian and israel. basically, when you think it is this way, probably what was impossible in 2018 might be possible now backed by the qatari or saudi financial kind of support and backed by the arab league and the u.n. security council resolution. they can take it and keep it quiet for a few months after we leave and bring back the palestinian sovereignty. >> we have to take a break. when we come back, stay with me, barak. i will ask ehud barak whether the peace plan

abu mazen, since the very first moment. issued a clear statement kurds, the fatah movement is fighting alongside all the palestinian groups , al-aqsa cities are in the field, they are fighting with qassam battalions , abu ali al-mustafa, we have the same training , we have the same goal, we are defending islamic and christian holy places, and unity in the field in gaza now. jenin's message in nablus is that it is the time to put aside our differences and unite and confront this madness and this madness of netanyahu who wants to kill all the palestinians . this is their slogan that the arabs must die. this is happening now in gaza, i am sure that people arabic and what you can see live is from the moment of the bombardment of the residential areas of gaza by the zionist regime and we also presented the report of al-alam reporter who was reporting at the same moment. a hospital near gaza was bombed. this scene actually. what the extremist cabinet of the zionist regime is doing. from the beginning, we said that the thoughts of

moroccans, qataris, who will keep an order and arrange bringing back the palestinian authority, namely abu mazenhat's idealistic picture. i...i'm farfrom being sure that it's possible, and we'll have to consider what to do next. yeah, it clearly matters a great deal, what next. and i want to actually end on the bigger picture, if i may. i was reporting on you when you tried to make peace with yasser arafat, based on a two—state solution, at the beginning of this century. you failed. but the truth is that we still have two peoples locked in close proximity on one strip of land between the mediterranean sea and thejordan river. you believed in territorial compromise then. you did not believe in permanent military occupation. you did not believe in the expansion of jewish settlements. so i ask you right now — how does this end? netanyahu talks about changing the middle east forever. but in your view, how does israel ensure long—term peace and security now? i'm not against changing the middle east forever in the right direction. there might be a dispute about what the right direction looks like. but

abu mazen and hamas took over all control in gaza.was the, i would say, the changing , you would say, the changing, you know, point in this regard. and from that period of time until today, hamas is in a full control of the gaza strip area . control of the gaza strip area. and from june two thousand and seven, there were three major, you know, military operations of the idf with israeli defence forces inside gaza. because you have to understand and the meaning of hamas, hamas, by the way, is the abbreviations of harakat al—muqawama al—islamiyya, the islamic resistance movement. and listen carefully to the to the abbreviations of hamas . you abbreviations of hamas. you cannot find the word palestine or palestinian in the word because, you know, they the ambition of hamas is not only to liberate in quotations palestine and to be responsive for palestine, including, you know , palestine, including, you know, the west bank or judea and samaria. but at the same time, they're looking of hamas is to all over the arab lands from ocean to ocea