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>> well, abu zubaydah wasn't new to me. i was a case agent in the millennium operaon in jordan and i was in the sanction operation. we knew a lot about abu zubaydah because of his operation with the plot to blow up the l.a.x. airport. and after this, this individual who thinks he's big in his mind, he gets caught. he's injured. >> rose: he was shot, wasn't he? >> he was shot. we're treating him very nice and then also keep in mind that he's a... human beings are social animals in nature so he wanted that communication. he wanted to show you that he has a value for you because this value is what's going to make his life worthwhile for the rest of it because he's going to be in jail. so there's a lot of things playing in his head. so it's not only what's in my head what i want. i have to understand where he is mentally, psychologically, and play on all these feelings to out with him to corporate. and if i was very successful in understanding this, understanding where he is and understanding what i need to do to get him to a f

we start waterboarding in abu zubaydah in may, 2002. we arrest padilla in may, 2003. however the kaefsy memo is wrong. padilla was arrested in mae of 2002. months before waterboarding. so date brs r being changed. >> rose: matt damon, cameron crowe d ali soufan when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: in 2006, a journalist named benjamin me moved his family to a house in the british countryside. it had 12 bedrooms and a lovely garden. the catch: it also contained 250 exotic animals. despite logistical challenges, mee and his family preserved the zoo, which is currently still open. the story of his adventure is a new movie. it is called "we bought a zoo" and here is the trailer. >> hustle, hustle, we're late. all right, oh, hi. all right. bye. >> bye, dad. >> i thought maybe dinner for three. >> thank you. >> or four. >> hey, rosie, am i doing anything right? >> you're not like other dads. lots of them don't havehair. but that's good. >> attempt to start up. >> i shall try to start o

we start waterboarding in abu zubaydah in may, 2002. we arrest padilla in may, 2003. however the kaefsy memo is wrong. padilla was arrested in mae of 2002. months before waterboarding. so date brs r being changed. >> rose: matt damon, cameron crowe d ali soufan when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: in 2006, a journalist named benjamin me moved his family to a house in the british countryside. it had 12 bedrooms and a lovely garden. the catch: it also contained 250 exotic animals. despite logistical challenges, mee and his family preserved the zoo, which is currently still open. the story of his adventure is a new movie. it is called "we bought a zoo" and here is the trailer. >> hustle, hustle, we're late. all right, oh, hi. all right. bye. >> bye, dad. >> i thought maybe dinner for three. >> thank you. >> or four. >> hey, rosie, am i doing anything right? >> you're not like other dads. lots of them don't havehair. but that's good. >> attempt to start up. >> i shall try to start o

it was people like khalid sheikh mohammed, a abu zubaydah, the notion that somehow the united states was wildly torturing anybody is not true. anybody that takes the time to look at the program i think will come to the same conclusion people out there who defer with respect to that but when we get to the whole area of the controversy waterboarding added that there is a protester outside this morning when i drove in 33 people were waterboarded. notte dozens or hundreds but three. the one that was subjected most often to that was khalid sheikh mohammed and produced the nominal results. there are reports that the intelligence community did of the results of the program, which were declassified at my request that are now available on the internet that talk about the quality of information that we got as a result of our enhanced interrogation techniques applied by a handful of individuals. we were talking about only a handful of people who were indeed part of the al qaeda organization id khalid sheikh mohammed was only the man we had reason to believe correctly the head of daniel pearl re

it was people like khalid sheikh mohammed, a abu zubaydah, the notion that somehow the united statess wildly torturing anybody is not true. anybody that takes the time to look at the program i think will come to the same conclusion people out there who defer with respect to that but when we get to the whole area of the controversy waterboarding added that there is a protester outside this morning when i drove in 33 people were waterboarded. notte dozens or hundreds but three. the one that was subjected most often to that was khalid sheikh mohammed and produced the nominal results. there are reports that the intelligence community did of the results of the program, which were declassified at my request that are now available on the internet that talk about the quality of information that we got as a result of our enhanced interrogation techniques applied by a handful of individuals. we were talking about only a handful of people who were indeed part of the al qaeda organization id khalid sheikh mohammed was only the man we had reason to believe correctly the head of daniel pearl repor

it was people like khalid sheikh mohammed, a abu zubaydah, the notion that somehow the united stateswas wildly torturing anybody is not true. anybody that takes the time to look at the program i think will come to the same conclusion people out there who defer with respect to that but when we get to the whole area of the controversy waterboarding added that there is a protester outside this morning when i drove in 33 people were waterboarded. notte dozens or hundreds but three. the one that was subjected most often to that was khalid sheikh mohammed and produced the nominal results. there are reports that the intelligence community did of the results of the program, which were declassified at my request that are now available on the internet that talk about the quality of information that we got as a result of our enhanced interrogation techniques applied by a handful of individuals. we were talking about only a handful of people who were indeed part of the al qaeda organization id khalid sheikh mohammed was only the man we had reason to believe correctly the head of daniel pearl rep