because with abu zubaydah, when you were... that was the very first session, before they had — the physicians had said you needed to give him 12 hours or 1a hours or something like that. but he actually temporarily became unconscious, or you weren't sure whether he was breathing or not. right. and you are concerned. you had to... we are talking about heartbeats, you know? so he did vomit at one point, but he vomited up his food. i mean, i have to say of course, as you outlined in your book enhanced interrogation, waterboarding was something that was authorised by the bush administration, from the very top, you know, the department of defence and the department ofjustice had said this was an authorised form. not once, but four different times. sure. vice president dick cheney said waterboarding is fine, it does not constitute torture. so i want to make that clear. however, there is an alternative point of view that says waterboarding does constitute torture. we know, for example, barack 0bama said it did constitute torture. so b