abu zubaydah -- >> but it doesn't act on behalf of him. it acts on behalf of the state, of the nation, poland. >> i would agree with that. but the polish government did not direct abu zubaydah to pursue this claim. that was initiated -- that was initiated by his counsel in europe, filing a complaint. it's abu zubaydah's interests we represent. he is a private individual. he is certainly not the polish government. he was not given direction by the polish government. when the mlats were denied for the seventh time, yes, the prosecutor did say, as i understand it, not having been there myself, said to the polish lawyer for abu zubaydah, i don't have anything, you have rights under the law, why don't you submit something. and so that was a self-initiated act, that was not an instance of the polish prosecutor saying go file a 1782 request and see what comes of it. that's not why we were there. >> mr. klein, i may just not be understanding this. but when you say it's not a secret, i mean, there are several things that aren't secrets. there's ple

abu zubaydah -- >> but it doesn't act on behalf of him. it acts on behalf of the state, of the nation, poland. >> i would agree with that. but the polish government did not direct abu zubaydah to pursue this claim. that was initiated -- that was initiated by his counsel in europe, filing a complaint. it's abu zubaydah's interests we represent. he is a private individual. he is certainly not the polish government. he was not given direction by the polish government. when the mlats were denied for the seventh time, yes, the prosecutor did say, as i understand it, not having been there myself, said to the polish lawyer for abu zubaydah, i don't have anything, you have rights under the law, why don't you submit something. and so that was a self-initiated act, that was not an instance of the polish prosecutor saying go file a 1782 request and see what comes of it. that's not why we were there. >> mr. klein, i may just not be understanding this. but when you say it's not a secret, i mean, there are several things that aren't secrets. there's ple

and apparently in the news, whether the by no administration will censor the lawyer for abu zubaydah completely innocent, which is another case which the supreme court is right. hearing. who is mud con? my should con, i was picked up. you know, i don't remember he, i think he was very young. ultimately, he cooperated. he made a plea deal, but that was a quite a few years ago. and then it took a long time for him to be sentenced. and he was sentenced by 8 members of the military military officers in marines, air force, navy officers. and he, the, based on what his plea was. and what he was charged with their obligation was to sentence him to at least 25 years 25 to i don't remember the top and 40. they sentenced him to 26 years. but then at the request of his defense counsel, ah, who asked that they asked for clemency. they did. and 7 of the 8 wrote a hand written magnificent letter saying this was a stain on america. um became they didn't quite say he was tortured, but they said his what high his treatment came close to the torture in other countries that we don't permit. ah, this is