unemployment problem comes in because all it has happened with the pandemic is in mind you this is accel orating structural change in the economy structural change is going to happen anyway the 4th industrial revolution was already underway but it's being accelerated by the pandemic now the issues there is that industries that were a gradual decline are now in rapid decline and you're creating unemployment and so forth and spare capacity so i think it is unlikely that we are. to be getting back to 2019 levels of economic activity until probably 2022. and for me the bigger issue it's not really the cyclical recovery because the parts of the economy that are able to recover i think are going to recover just fine the problem for policymakers now is how do you deal with the structural challenges of your employment in dying industries for example how do you go about retraining how do you go about reaching your economy to make the most of the way the world is going to work the way the world has been working i'm curious to know bill our with this kind of structural shift accelerating that we're

not only the attack on fossil fuels shutting down the accell pipeline, but the executive order to stoplling on federal lands, it's new mexico. new mexico's democrat governor -- i'd love to have her on our show to use here what she's going to say about their state's budget. it is going to be decimated. i mean, my bet is it's probably over 50% -- and may be over 60% of their total budget director indirectly. it comes from the oil and gas industry, particularly on those federal lands. he was on this program tonight about joe biden's executive order on stopping that drilling on federal lands -- what would his nominee for department of interior -- a new mexican citizen -- say about that? >> sean: it so sad all of these things are happening. if this will have a direct impact on your state too. i feel terrible for all the people who lost their jobs. we're not going to replace them. highly skilled, very specific skill, and we are endangering the country. it's bad for national security, we are all going to pay more, and they are not going to replace it with solar panels and wind things. you can