can you give us aceps of what that's -- a sense of what that's about and why that might be effective? >> guest: yes. as you suggest, the omb does have the power to look at systems and, you know, recommend or not recommend their approval based upon the budgetary impact. traditionally, that budgetary impact, though, has just been the cost of the building and operating the equipment and has not taken into account explicitly the value of the spectrum that may be used in providing, meeting the mission of that equipment. so i haven't said that very well, but basically, a design engineer sitting down and doing a design is focused on making it perform to meet certain specifications. it may not be as conscious as they should be of the value of this resource, the value of this spectrum as, perhaps, they should be. so the idea is for them to do some calculations to show what the value of the spectrum they're going to use. and then to make some trade-offs. in other words, is it really worth this extra little bit of performance if it's going to cost an awful lot in terms of the amount of spectrum

. >> i'm trying to get aceps of what my takeaway needs to be. it's been a long afternoon, so i thank you for your time, and i yield back, mr. chairman. >> gentleman's time has expired. the chair now recognizes the gentle lady from north carolina for her five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. governor corzine, i have a couple questions for you, um, for clarification. you had -- the question was posed to you, why did you resign on november 3rd, and you indicated that it was at the request of a board member, or was this -- >> the leading, the lead director. >> the lead director. and that person's name? >> ed goldberg. >> ed goldberg. thank you. now, i know we've talked, um, about where we feel and where the responsibility lies, and you've identified that it could, you know, be procedural, you know, the money's gone. who do you hold responsible and accountable for this money being gone? >> as the ceo of an organization i hold the responsibility that the implementation of the policies, procedures and the people we had in place to execute on these