anti industry groups to do that of course because achatz their network brings in money for them as well so i think we should look at this from both sides we sometimes have visits from them recently they invaded this building and they have done so before and threw manure and threatening letters and stuff but ok that's part of the game i suppose we do not win you know when we fight against and we fight against when we try and dialogue with people either we don't have the same weapons i sometimes have the feeling that. we have both an arrows and they have atom bombs as soon as there's an engineer or a group of people who are against something maybe maybe the bandits maybe they stop using it in place of importing so in terms of development and trust i think we risk losing a lot of trust as a region when i say industry has the truth we know what's in our products for example that if i if i make a product i mean you can go home this evening and make a buy area in your kitchen and you know what's in ringback there and you write it down that is the truth sorry but you know we are an industry we