eventually the truman administration dean acheson says we know it's war. question is can a president break out of this and any president that rea that would wt for quick think it's not a great idea to make these a lot of the assertions because i'm going to get beaten back by the congress and yet as you described it as thetheykeep asserting the powert on the face of approval. can you imagine a future president learning the lessons? this is something they got right in the federalist papers they would say you wouldn't need the government, to make sure the government was limited in its power. president tend to want to seek as much power as they can get. this isn't a perfect analogy but i described the presidents like a great white shark. the shark will attack and if you go into what her with a wetsuit and surfboard shark might think you were a seal and attack you. the difference is a person who's president cawhosepresident can s and make decisions but what i mean by that is i think the point of having checks and balances and setting limits on power is that the

senate acheson bill to lift the debt ceiling for one and a year now heads to the president's desk. what made a dramatic? >> guest: we do eventually the up bill would probably pass but in the senate there are procedural hurdles requiring a 60 vote threshold to move to final passage. sometimes they can work out a deal that it just requires a majority vote but senator cruz foist against using that threshold moving for the us 60 bow to move of the bill that would require at least five republican senators to put their necks out of blind that politically hurtful to them. it was dramatic in a way we did not know how many or which senators would vote to move forward with this bill. what is most surprising is minority leader mitch mcconnell who was soon the reelection side with a primary challenge was one of those that voted to proceed with the bill. of course, he is the leader of the republicans for the senate and boehner earlier this week did the same thing. >> host: what do g.o.p. leadership do to get the votes needed to pass? >> guest: they talked about it during the conference meeting

everybody was happy acheson to the class members to did not know that there attorneys and sold them out it was very fortunate that we found an objector who wanted to do the right thing. and we will see if the judge approves the settlement anyway and see what the ninth circuit wants to do with it. but opting out is not going to do anything. in the case of -- unless you can actually mobilize tens of thousands of doctors to opt out, opting out does is that these doctors are not right to bail to get their $10 is still left rights bill to bring the lawsuit because the reason was a class-action in the first place and was because it would be mps will to bring the clam individually. so the only time and not that really makes a difference is in a securities litigation where you have lots of small individuals shareholders began fees of we opt out, but maybe a large pension fund cannot doubt. what i hear is least anecdotally in and no one studies this call will what i hear anecdotally is even in these big settlements where it looks like the defendant is giving of hundreds of millions of dollars wh