well, the wasp establishment, the protestant establishment--people like john mccloy and dean acheson--people like that, they had many virtues. one of them was a sense of public service. the protestant establishment, the sons of that establishment died in large number in world wars i and ii. they joined the cia and parachuted behind the cold war, the iron curtain lines, at great personal risk. they sometimes did a lot that was not in their personal interest, but they did it because they were s--they were raised with a sense of noblesse oblige. they--to much--you know, you have tremendous privileges, so you have to give back. and that is not a sense, i don't think, the bobos have, because the bobos are an elite trained to think that they're not an elite. they're an establishment trained to be anti-establishmentarian. so i haven't seen the level of national involvement and national service. the other great wasp virtue is reticence, which certainly the bobos don't have. when george bush the elder, ran for president in 1988, his mother, who was then still alive, said, 'george, you're talki