. >> well that goes back to achmed's point which is that it's the use. i'm sorry. it's the use of the information and the limitations. it's not the limitation on the collection on the front end but how it's used and the nsa went to great pains to say there is a limited number of people who can access it very limited reasons, purposes for for which they can access x number of levels of authority for doing et cetera. so joe nsa operator can't just check to see whether his girlfriend is making calls to somebody he doesn't like. >> here's the problem. the fbi doesn't have a rule that says they have to throw out that data after they make the match and that's where the fight is, a big part of the fight on the section 2 15 reform right now. make the bhach, throw out the data for the people who don't fit the match. you'll save it while the investigation is happening and you'll making sure that the terrorist cohort is or is not on the plaen, i get that. but at some point relatively quickly after that assessment is made, get rid of the data about the innocent people and ther

in that same raid in january, an american by the name of achmed farouk was killed in that the. he was an al qaeda leader. another american was killed days later. his name adam gadham. and also an american who had gone over to work for al qaeda. the white house statement which was issued earlier expresses deep sorrow and regret. no words can fully express our regret over this terrible tragedy. the president will say that he takes full responsibility but this is one of those things which classified now is being unclassified because the white house tells us the president believes the american public has the right to know. >> but, bill to be clear, this is the first-known instance in which the u.s. has accidentally killed a hostage in a drone strike, right? >> that's right. and the fact that it's being revealed probably has a lot to do with the understanding that it would come out sooner or later anyway. >> bill plante at the white house. we'll switch over to david martin at the pentagon. david, i know you have some details on what exactly happened here in january because this woul

also i think said achmed the latest suspect, fits the profile of the three frenchmen who carried outs in france a few weeks ago. this is part of a general tendency in france. you have about 1500 suspects who are basically fighting in iraq and syria or basically something to do with militant activities. >> professor, i want to refer to something that's just coming across our desk here on msnbc. we're just learning from the white house that adam gadahn the american who went to fight for al qaeda, has been killed. there are also reports, this coming from the white house press secretary that a u.s. government count terrorism operation in january killed two innocent hostages that were being held by al qaeda the americans were dr. warren weinstein, an american held by since 2011 and giovanni laporto being held by al qaeda since 2012. so an operation by the united states military accidentally killed both hostages but also apparently in different operations in the pakistan/afghanistan border area there was a killing of at least one american who had joined al qaeda. this is breaking news that