isps have agr create low cost plans in pickup with acp -- in partnership with acp. when we were at the white house where they announcha folks would be now able to have free internet. 80%. but there's little, ltl business case i foresee for isps the keep nearly 24 million households connected for free in the absence of support and so we're funding to collapsa significant factor for these subscribers. i think that'd be substantial and would be difficult to stand up acp or some it e ration of it as a replacement program in the future including trying to just keep these households online at all. so i think this would be a devastate devastating loss of households' conductivity. correct it. -- connect it. and truly to have the human almost element of this, i thi, e households. nearly a quarter of teens living in households making less than $30,000 per year say they sometimes cannot complete their homework. again, the homework gap we've long heard about due to the lack of reliable computer internet access. commissioning of the survey shows among students 18 to 24, 75% are

thanks to acp she got her for fe her face right now.ooked at me with the combination of grave worry and deep frustration, and said she truly didn't know what was going to happen for her, for her family if and when acp goes away. timberlake was a senior in in lake county illinois. he's 80 but was spry, active, with wearing a trench coat and was dressed impeccably, said that he was computer illiterate, and never even turn on a computer in his great 80 years on this earth. we first heard of acp, many of you in the room who have worked with folks in getting folks in it was just too good to be true. so we hesitated for a really long time. thanks to acp he got digital literacy courses, set his first text message to his grown daughter replied of course was, dad, welcome to the 21st century. thought that was fun. but like manyam of course also took advantage of broadband and had a significant medical diagnosis as well. acp has helped him with his telehealth. last story. i could go on. you know, i've met p portland to seattle, to santa fe. and a

they are struggling to figurt alive if acp ends.ly, i predict that in these households will be unable to stay online, will be unable to stay connected.g to survey da collected by the sec, 68% of households say that they had inconsistent or zero connectivity prior to acp. 80% of the siding affordability as the reason for the lack of same survey reported 77% of respondents say that losing to acp benefit would disrupt their service, makehe pp internet service completed. another study of unconnected households found that then mean price, then the price respond to say they could they would be at most ten dollars.b(hem said they couldn't paint anything. and the majority of these households are subscription vulnerable, meaning thatt very t into their monthly budgets. and so taking a step back and look at some of the macro poli i just really see acp goes away are very limited options. a few states do have affordability programs that could serve as a backstop. so then that means we are looking to what i will say generously is the charity of

you have got to give the financing for acp so we can keep the program going. and yes we continue to talk about what the appropriate action for usf reform. >> one thing was also seen in the last couple of months is the sec beginning to sketch out kind of what difference and it would look like a little bit. the chairwoman, chairwoman of the sec jessica rosenberg himself has written to the health in january can talk about- the acp could be added to u.s. f and look at some of the different types of ways you could assess different service and what that would mean she put an emphasis in the letter on what would these different scenarios mean for consumer bills. paroma, i want to turn back to you because i was curious i saw this letter from the sec chairwoman. what jumped out at you when looking through this, and whaething like that playing going forward as congress and of the folks are trying to can wrestle through how to proceed on some of >> i think that's a great question because and it's right with the sec should be doing evaluating various mechanisms. however,

i thought we, he acp.can represent are you talking to her about the acp? we need that funding. listen company, when i have people like that come up to me at a concert, it's got out there far and wide. so i'm using that, and i listen. you need to speak. you need to be able to talk to people in a sense, you of small-town newspapers, you can talk. let's blow this up in a sense so people understand exactly what this means. >> you know, one part of the acp than most people don't realize, are our member companies like sonic in san francisco that is rated as the best isp with the highest speeds, is a competitive fiber to the home and just tremendous story of one of our member companies, but acp is very important for them to deploy new networks. because they can create a business model and the business case that if they deploy everywhere and people can afford it, and■< acp allows for the big business plan and financing to deploy to all neighborhoods in all parts of or town. >> that's right. >> and sometimes people

we're going to get a solution for acp to be funded?re will be a fix for the short-term funding with acp. i believe senator welch■ and senator vance, their package looking at appropriations, it's getting more support and more members are talking about it, appropriated are talking about it and ways to get that funded. colleagues in different corners are asking about the pay forwards as well. other reaso spectrum needs to get done soon. nonetheless, unless the congress wants to see millions of people across america lose internet. all the providers in the room or represented in this room to their customers to say this is all going away. if congress didn't act. a sol. and a solution that's widely supported. so, i believe that that's the answer addition to that, while the vast welch effort takes it to the we need to be thinking about after that. so, i've been proud to be working with colleagues on a bipartisan, bicameral working group to bring those programs together, to modernize those ra they're funded and who they're going to help and how

or rip and replace anything you would like to add on acp rip and replace?t. i have not had so many people come up to met in the general constituency at home than the acp. it has reached theeo to connect. it's probably the most important connectivity we've had in our history it's reaching 23 million households which is an awful lot. and particularly in rural areas which have had much difficulty. when you t think about what happened during the pandemic in the last o connectivity people embrace this. can have access yt have affordability you can't get to the right place the people don't get it at all. and so now it is so important to make sure we do not lose the funding. we are looking at something that is anmergency when you get stopgap funding for this. i think it is critical that we are doing this now.ny times we n congress that people may not be aware of what we have done. that happens a lot of times they away. they know. i really feel we owe that to our constituents to get that done. i realize we need to make it more sustainable but at this moment in time

the acp. according to the fcc, congress will close it tomorrow. congress has not started it up again. it is one of those programs. can you talk about the president's interest in this work and in your view how the digital divide should be addressed and what congress should do to foster more access to broadband for all americans. >> i am not sure if he has gone up yet. >> he is up next. >> so alan and i have had authority at the department of commerce. it is incredible work he is doing in the ntia to help build out infrastructure. literally making sure every community and urban america, suburban america, rural america, has access to the internet. it is something that in every field of life is necessary right now. they are moving something like $90 billion, or what have you. this really wonderful partnership with internet providers that has manifested itself in the acp program -- you cannot overstate how important this is. taking new applicants as of this week, the program will expire this spring. and you think about the scale and how it got to this

we are going to get a solution acp to be funded?stic there will be a fix for short-term funding. i■kelieve sen senator vance their package and appropriations is getting more supports. more members are talking about it. they are looking at, funded. colleagues in different corners look to pay for it as spectrum needs to get done soon it would also help answer that question immediately. unless the congressne wants to e millions of people across america lose internet all of the providers that are in this room are represented in this room have had to send notices to their customers to say this is all going away. if congress does not. there is a solution in hand i believe that is the and in addition to that the effort takes it to the next year we need to be thinking about after that. i've been proud to be working with colleagues on a bipartisan bicameral working group around acp andca usf. to bring those programs together to modernize those program to modernize the weather going to be funded who they're going to help, how are they going t

it's really wonderful partnership with internet providers that manifest itself in the acp program.ow important this is. not taking new applicants as of this week. the program will expire this spring. you think about this scale and how it got to this point. we are talking 23 million people all across this country. give access to free internet or significantly reduces their internet. we have heard story after story of a real families, real challenges the real issues that not for this program would not have access to the internet. as long as staff is been around only 29 my people instead of arty 23 million people acp and the wonderful partnership we have responsibilities to be a politician and i work for the government. i can't tell you to do something an advocate but for those of you who have a voice it's really important the same bipartisan leadership that you will do on acp that steps up and make sure we will continue to provide these opportunities for families all across this country. the good thing about it when you reach that kind of scale all across the country it is worth advo

only 29.7 million people are on s.n.a.p. 23 million people are using acp.an, now i work for the government. i cannot tell you to go do something, and navigate. those that don't have a voice, it is important that the same leadership that you will do, we are looking at making sure that everyone is willing to step up. the good thing about it, when you reach that kind of hail it affects everyone, in every community. hopefully and prayerfully,, and stands up and helps us with this program, hopefully able to bend it. you make the president has been on the road for weeks or months, talking about this infrastructure investment, with the c.h.i.p.s. act. it is bringing a lot of great construction projects to places around the country. it is important for national security. i wanted to ask you, given you spent 12 years as a mayor, how we can help local communities, states, and municipalities we are looking at the investment in infrastructure and the upgrades to systems. we look at the technology investment that the i.t. members are doing. how can we help the rest of t

continuing the drumbeat on the acp i'm trying to use my position and order with consumers abouting in benefits it's critical.cá female representation at the fcc of their background. it ise been able to reach consumers in a whole new way getting your statements and your speeches to make them more accessible to■q. i know you recently traveled to congress. give us your■m perspective of wt you learned what did you see that most impressed you? that you wanted to bring back tells about? i guess i'm still recov it was terrific. erit was such a good conference, to see a lot of technological innovations. it's funny to learn the floor. a couple of different impressions. first of all, artificial intelligence was everything. every panel, every roundtable, every discussion centered around artificial intelligence. somebody told me, people intelle when it is not even at issue, because it is the new sexy topic. usually there is a theme to everything, but that stood out to me. i attended the ministerial program. and one of the things that is good about it that it is in barcelona is because it has mini

continuihe acp i'm trying to use my position and order with consumers about everything in the benefitst's critical. female representation at the fcc of their background. it is important. you have been able to reach consumers in a whole new way getting your statements and your speeches to make them more accessible to consumers. i know you recently traveled t congress. give us your perspective of what you learned what did you see that most impressed you? that you wanted to bring back tells about? i guess i'm still recovering it was terrific. such a good conference to see technological innovations is fun touring the floor. i came as a couple different artificial intelligence was everything every panel, every roundtable, every discussion centered around artificialintel. people like to raise artificial intelligence when this not even an issue because it's a newy topic. usually there's always a theme to everything. i attended that ministerial program. it's an opportunity to meet with regulation around the world. i really enjoy those discussions. regulators are facing the same issues we are f

it is this a urgent now that we do need to constantly be talking about the acp the affordable connectivity the most successful affordability program that we implemented in order to close the digital divide. lifetr bills and congress to extend the program. they rely to participate in the digital society. in theial in order to go to school, orders go to telehealth. to continue to talk about.■ less competitive effects on the united states. means increasing cost for government. talk about telehealth for seniors that is not shown telehealth decreases the cost half the identify as military families. 4 million are seniors you mentioned we are providing everywhere in this country. a significant portion of that is two areas that are hard to serve serve. their high cost. the costs are very they tend to be very rural. the don't connect you are risk■%g stranded investments. the networks will be unsustainable or big because companies may decide not to apply for funding from certain areas because it does not make the business case sustain a network over the long term. it is so important congress refund

the economic realnetworks became a lot worse when acp was not authorized.t's require recalculation on the part of isp what's the net value inil high-speed areas? or another. what were going to have to do in our site is increased subsidy to make that pencil out for folks it's also going to take a bunch more places into areas where the op ex could be negative in the way for paying for cap next is going to be tougher to find partners will fight more missioa lower rate of return. i will also say i don't think it's discuss often enough people who do a state government that members who represent state government be more thoughtful about what can be done at the state level. there are, and i have to be careful here at france was telling states what to or not to do. i'm not going to call it specifics but what i will say there exists a tremendous number of good ideas. with this approach. the cross of pollinating when it's about lowering barriers to market entry. whether it is about supporting the expansion of the middle mile and leveraging other infrastructure whethe

. >> we'll hear from the cities double acp, which strongly supported the reinstatement of former police chief armstrong. plus san francisco's district attorney joining alongside the city's api community, demanding more punishment for the man who stabbed the woman several times back in 2021, we're going hear their message and bart is inviting musicians buck in the subways. buck has an classical musician, an classical musician, se ( ♪♪ ) you made a cow! actually it's a piggy bank. my inspiration to start saving. how about a more solid way to save? i'm listening. well, bmo helps get your savings habit into shape with a cash reward, every month you save. both: cash reward? and there's a cash bonus when you open a new checking account to get you started. wow. anything you can't do? ( ♪♪ ) mugs. ♪ bmo ♪ give you a live look at wow. really cloudy skies over francisco. you know, i'm going to rename lawrence a delivery man because you delivered on your threat that it was going to rain. but yeah, i don't know how many people are happy about that, though. they're mission. i mean, it was so last co

we need acp funding. just making sure it is all hands on deck. paying attention. we just need -- i will say -- people who have dual competency in government to understand the technology and talk about the implications and do this crossover. we really appreciate the partnership with folks in industry and the nonprofit world who help us understand these issues better. thank you to everyone who is here being part of this conversation. >> well, thank you. talking about the intersection between the technical know-how and that jealousy, you have described yourself very well. >> that is what i am all about. >> join me in thanking alan davidson for sharing his thoughts with you. we go this way. >> please welcoe neuberger, deputy assistant to the president and w national security advisor, cyber and emerging technology >> please welcome anne neuberger, deputy assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser, cyber and emerging national security council. and barbara humpton, president and ceo of u.s. this way. >> i am so glad we are together and that jason has

broadband, you know, we need acp funding. that is another thing that is important out there. you heard about that earlier today. just making sure it is all hands on deck and paying attention. we just need more, i will say, people have dual competency in government, who understand technology and can talk about the policy implications and to this crossover. we really appreciate the partnership with folks in industry, folks in nonprofits who help us understand these issues better. thank you for your leadership in the space. thanks to everybody here for being part of the conversation. >> thank you. talking about the intersection between the technical know-how and policy chops, you described yourself, we are very lucky to have you. >> that is what we are all about. >> please join me for thanking him and sharing his thoughts today. [ applause ]>>> >> please welcome neuberger, deputy assistant tome the president and w national security advisor, cyber and emerging technology at the national security council, and barbara please welcome deputy assistant to the president and deputy nati

the majority of subscribers to acp, i believe, are seniors. they are very high costs to surf.t, the services tend to be higher-priced. that is despite our universal service goals. we need to make sure that the companies that are providing the services are able to continue and i think we are spending billions of dollars to deploy broadband throughout every corner of america. we need to make sure that they are sustainable. that is without subscribers that won't necessarily be sustainable, so we are looking at a downstream of losing support for 22 million households, which can really have a significant effect on our economy. >> good to see congress take action. as you noted, it's important to a lot of communities and close to half of the participants are military, as will, so definitely important for our nation. >>> i want to ask you about two other areas that are important to the tech industry that the fcc has released a of activity and one of the service and cyber trustmark. i was pleased to participate and we will actually hear from ann newberger a little bit later who convene

acp help directorate one of things we learn was when that came to my office because of the affordableransportation, on housing if you are not healthy you can't go to work if you not help that you can't learn in school. if you are not healthy you cannot get out of your bed and how can you live? disparities are nothing but differences. i want to give you context. what it really means is removing barriers out of the way to have quality of life and health. equity cannot be achieved if the barriers are bigger than the plan. until the closing of the gaps and i appreciate the opportunity to have been a part of this report. because healthcare for me is the human rights activists plan to help set strategy for everything else. becausee learn about it it was always in our community was marketed in our communities. we had food deteriorating in our communities where there's a study done at first grace asked what color our bananas they said solidund. and so you can have good nutrition if you're brown bananas. so i am want a brown banana plant my context is how do we create gaps to ask band and oppo

mean, the amazing broadband investments made in rural, suburban, and urban america, the success of the acpram that has now 23 million people all across the country finally being able to afford internet access understanding that that's the only way that a lot of kids will get education, that people will be able to apply for jobs and continue this amazing small business boom. use mentioned, the greatest number of african american businesses started in the last 30 years and latino businesses as well. we got a lot to talk about in an environment that is not only noisy but it's very different, you know. i had to talk to some young people the other day and remind them that there was actually a time when there were primarily three channels that also cut off at a certain point in the night and that not only are we no longer in the 24 hour news cycle but we're in news cycle now where things are like, with you and i probably receive hundreds of emails as we're sitting here talking. we're going to have to flood the zone, share the message, share a clear vision for the future that joe biden and kamala

move forward and we're willing to work acp in any way we can to ensure that that happens. if you're going to rank. >> the priorities that you'd like him to tackle first. i know we're dealing with retail theft on the rise. we're dealing with a violent crime in some cases on the rise as well of the various issues that oakland is dealing with in combating. what would you suggest he tried to tackle first? if you had to pick one. >> the issue's obviously public safety. we must tackle the issue of public safety so every citizen can bills say walking the streets of open. and that is so critical to our well-being >> okay. so so number one would be that that police. but you said community engagement is important. a lot of times the trouble with public safety is, you know, people are afraid to report a crime because they don't want to get worse. and so, you know, that's a balance to as we're talking about that, how how can he encourage people to participate? will that builder? and and knowing that, you know, there there may be arrest that result and make them still feel safe. >> eve

the legal counsel leading the way for desegregation with the brown versus board of education in the acp. it's to be medgar down in mississippi fighting jim crow, segregation. it's going to be the leadership of black officers and veterans, world war one, who are going to push back against the racial violence that happens during red summer, because oftentimes when we talk about red summer, it's only, you know, from the perspective of being killed. but in chicago, that wasn't the case because they had veterans setting up snipers, men picket. folks are. how in any who but thinking about the importance of military training and this is one of the reasons why you have that consistency of african-americans because the use of military training to defend their communities, their families is crucial because guess what they couldn't do during slavery. so now they can have guns and they had them and now they do fight back. and they did so, for example, the tulsa massacre right. how many of you watched the watchmen love show, right? it begins, unfortunately, with it. well, fortunately begins with the

president of the national urban league and derrick johnson, he is president and ceo over the n double acp. good to have you both on, gentlemen. thanks for joining me this sunday there's good voting rights act was signed into law just six months after bloody sunday. it has been nearly six decades. and yet, i think it's safe to say the work continues. many states have enacted voting restrictions after the 2020 elections based in part on donald trump's false claims of election fraud. you met with harris at the white house last week. do you still find moments like this? notable and is the fight still on in effect? >> well it's a sobering moment. we met with the vice president earlier this week. we're commemorating the 59 year of the march. bloody sunday and yet we just we are in the midst of eight lawsuits across the country to protect the rights of voters. but we just won the lawsuit right there in alabama to ensure african american in his state could electric candidate of choice in a second congressional districts. so as both us, what we call a sankofa moment, we are still dealing with the

they're £1,000 in sloun and sw and fenced in the acp balti in baltimore is getting a half a million bucksheir headquarters d. >> they help democrats, so why l not send thepem a half a million dollars? fire marshal bowmados? n, the guy who pulled the alarm on capitol hill, wants a million and a half dollars to teach kindergartners teach about clime change. fetterman wants $1,000,000 forln a community center that hosts d fetish and parties. i think that's torture. when he got caught about it,s his office put out a statement saying he retracts the earmark. but no put out statemew fettermt and says he actually does support the fetisactuallyh parn museum and he doesn't know why. his staff denied it. dianne feinstein, who passed away in october, sadly, even has an earmark herself. now. we don't know how or when or why. feinstein has been dead a while, has an earmark in the latest bill, but there's 5 million bucks for a shootingn range with her name on it in california. >> didn't congress throw a mutiny because the last speaker was spending too mucbec what's going on here? none of thes?e people

that case, by the way, the national anybody acp, they they what?the entire chapter, by the way, over that issue. over that issue. lonnie king and the entire chapter got suspended because decided to and of course, the atlanta schools has been dominated by foreigners ever since. but were like, you know, the idea was there were there were many white atlantans who were open to integration increasingly so in the 1970s there whites across the united were increasingly open to it. but there were also there was strident resistance to it. many afro-american families felt that putting children in those spaces to be taunted and abused was not a healthy thing to do. and they thought it'd be better to have equal resources across the school district rather than, put your children and leave these, broke schools here and then see your children. these schools here, these schools will still be broken poor. as i said, if you control the system, you can control who gets resources and that's what they decide to do. so now, how does maynard jackson tie into all of this?

this includes raising awareness for the affordable connectivity program acp which provides eligible veterans with broadband service. a program we urge congress to continue funding. in addition, we help veterans register and track changes for earned benefits. for example, this year, we partnered with the v.a.'s communications team to inform our veterans of the passage of the pact act finally, for our employees in the national guard reserves, like myself, we provide a generous military leave policy into including gap pay for up to 36 months in closing. i would like to thank you for holding this hearing as the committee considers ways to advance opportunities for veterans. verizon stands ready to work with you and support the men and women who have bravely served our country. i'm happy to answer any questions you might have. >> thank you, ms mccoy, ms eisen, you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you for the opportunity to testify today as a military spouse and mother of us marines who have separated from service. this topic is very close to my heart with me. today is hayley weaver, the

laughter] but my big issue of the week, with the money that we are willing to send to other countries, the acpto an end. i may not have internet and they may not have, even the ability to what your program anymore. because i am no-income. i just don't -- because i am low-income. i don't know why congress is not moving on extending the program. host: just so viewers at home no, at is from the feral communications commission, the affordable connectivity program, as it is called. time, if i recall correctly, congress is yet to vote on funding for, that how much longer do you have assistance from that program. caller: two weeks. host: so if congress doesn't act on it, that stops as far as accessibility to you? caller: yes, and my bill for internet and cable is going to go up about 40 something dollars. and i know that doesn't sound like a lot of money, but in my particular situation right now, $40 is a l around with $200, three hundred dollars cash in my pocket, i have owned a couple of . but things have changed for me. $40 is $40. that's a lot. it makes a difference. host: tom talking about other

after all, it's been on the biking and rolling acp map as a future protected bikeway. it was the only specific bike priority from the bayview community based transportation plan as part of the blue greenway, my neighbors hosted an april 2021 ride with chair ekin and supervisor walton . we've been talking to sfmta staff for years, but there's a new development that makes it urgent in 2.5 years, it's not that urgent, but very urgent. dpw will close the third street bridge over icu's creek for a two year makeover, rerouting much of the truck and bus traffic to illinois street and likely causing big delays for cars and commuters from bayview and hunters point. the need is to protect the existing bike traffic. we already share the road with a huge number of large trucks. i counted 150 large trucks in one hour and how scary it would it be with two or more times that the opportunity is to provide a safe and fast alternative mode for many commuters looking to avoid traffic delays, and also to reduce those delays by making it safe for some people to get out of their cars. you c

after all, it's been on the biking and rolling acp map as a future protected bikeway. it was the only specific bike priority from the bayview community based transportation plan as part of the blue greenway, my neighbors hosted an april 2021 ride with chair ekin and supervisor walton . we've been talking to sfmta staff for years, but there's a new development that makes it urgent in 2.5 years, it's not that urgent, but very urgent. dpw will close the third street bridge over icu's creek for a two year makeover, rerouting much of the truck and bus traffic to illinois street and likely causing big delays for cars and commuters from bayview and hunters point. the need is to protect the existing bike traffic. we already share the road with a huge number of large trucks. i counted 150 large trucks in one hour and how scary it would it be with two or more times that the opportunity is to provide a safe and fast alternative mode for many commuters looking to avoid traffic delays, and also to reduce those delays by making it safe for some people to get out of their cars. you c