some claims were going in, though, by a firm called action 4 equality, for years a thorn in the side thorities, pursuing equal pay cases against them. so far, it's successfully represented 300,000 cases around the uk, reaching settlements of almost £4 billion. i last interviewed its director stefan cross 11! years ago when, he says, the unions were campaigning against them. hello. how are you? it's been some time. thank you so much. i really appreciate it. thank you. we had the trade unions picketing meetings to stop people getting in to hear about the equal pay struggle. when we say to stop people getting in, to stop the women from getting in? yeah. they often told the women that it would cost them theirjobs, or other people'sjobs, if they pursued their cases, or it would bankrupt the council. it was a guilt trip against the women to dissuade them from pursuing these cases. i ask him about what fiona and audrey in glasgow had told me — that many women were only receiving five years' compensation. so you have half the women getting their 13 years' worth of claim, and the other half ge