we begin with facebook a good place for startups on shaky ground what brian acton's criticism of mark zuckerberg is he called it a whole new standard of low class. for more on the continued turmoil, we are joined by contributor walter isaacson and sus susan lyons. if the departure for the executives wasn't enough, back and forth between marcus and acton says a lot about culture at the company, who has responsibility for the position we find ourselves in as a country and planet, regarding social media what are your thoughts >> it says a lot about the culture. it says a lot about the business model, you have to monetize people that use the service to sell access. you are going to end up doing everything you can get away with i think the most important thing that brian acton said and it wasn't a low class statement, he is one of the what's app founders criticizing facebook, he said we were trying to find out revenue models, including charging somebody a tenth of a penny for a message. that may seem not -- it isn't thinking out of the box, saying can't we have another revenue stream that

acton was not quiet. te tried to start a #dele facebook movement.oke about disagreements he has zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg, saying they are business people. they are good businesspeople, they just represent a series of ethics i don't agree with." that did not sit well with a facebook executive who wrote "i find attacking the people who made you a billionaire and went to shield and accommodate you four years low class. it is a whole new standard of low class." this begs the question, what is going on with high-profile creators leaving facebook? we have david kirkpatrick with us in chicago. put this into context, david marcus had been running facebook messenger for a long time, which has been an inhouse competitor to whatsapp. withinly interactions zuckerberg and attempting to turn whatsapp into a business. what do you make of this happening in public? david: it is significant david marcus spoke out. he is one of the most senior people, one of the most respected people there. i find it pretty sorted, to be honest. -- sordid, to be honest. the hist

acton's famous cathedral bathe in like this city landmark was transformed as part of special anniversary celebrations forty years ago it was the first building in germany to be declared a unesco world heritage site. the weather was cold and rainy for the opening night of celebrations but that didn't put a damper on people's spirits lighting designer christophe helen has been working for one year straight to put this project together. it's in the office this is all about showing how the cathedral has always been exposed to danger in the course of its twelve hundred years in all this and how the people of aachen have always saved it. on t.v. in the context of this festival week it's all a bit artistically interpreted into the theater. fourteen projectors and what's called pixel mapping created the three d. lighting a fact. this is not in the vitamins this is a three dimensional image with the photos like this here we see the front of the building which we scanned with a laser scanner or should i do you do this and that means we have a real three d. data and we know from every point what di

wembley park and aldgate. to acton town due to a signal failure. if we look at the roads now.e north—west of the uk, our first name storm of the season. but it remains reasonably warm. clearing away, but still the chance of a shower today. speeds, 40—50 mph potentially during the day. celsius. through the afternoon and into the night time as well. and should be mostly dry. minimum between 13 and 15 celsius. still quite breezy, but the wind falls a bit lighter overnight. tomorrow, there is quite a bit of cloud around. but again, the temperature holding in the low 20s. things turning rather unsettled. that's it for now. i'll be back with all the latest in half an hour. see you soon. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with dan walker and louise minchin. a move to break the deadlock on brexit. to improve its offer on the irish border. £2 billion to help build more social housing. the government announces long—term plans for more affordable homes. labour says it is not enough. clean me up, scotty. rubbish in space. the likes of aldi and lidl. night at anfield. but spurs lose to in

let's discuss it with rupa huq, the mp for ealing central and acton.it snippy and irritated but this was his greatest hits. we saw with the snap election last year. the more the public sees him, the more they like him. in that election we we re they like him. in that election we were supposed to be completely wiped out. we were 20% behind in the polls, i had the second smallest majority in the country. i was elected with 50 times more majority. good stuff from jeremy corbyn. lots of stuff on the fact that there should be a general election and if there is no general election it would be another referendum. i'm still not entirely clear what labour is proposing. a customs deal and a strong relationship with the single market. if you're going to have a strong relationship with the single market, there has to be freedom of movement. we have six tests. we have them all here. we have to have the same benefits as we have now. that is the gist of them. that is what the brexiteers used to claim at the beginning of this. they never say that any more. is it a gen

we begin with facebook a good place for startups on shaky ground what brian acton's criticism of mark

with us now is rupa huq, who is the mp for ealing central and acton and a vocal campaigner for national and even before i was the mp i think it is for 23 yea rs now was the mp i think it is for 23 years now there has been a standing protest by people. it has got more and more sinister and intimidate three. people who have got dolls of foetuses, weird pictures of babies in different states, and they patrol the clinic. they have been outside the clinic. they have been outside the years and years impeding the progress of women who need to have what is a medical procedure done. even the staff who work there were unable to get in there because their access unable to get in there because their a ccess was unable to get in there because their access was blocked. i started asking about this in parliament. ealing council went down a bylaw route as well and actually we have had some success in ealing that now those people have moved away from the gates of the clinic, so women can get in there. it is distressing, i have the statement here. it is a difficult and distressing process as it is without

faulty train. on the a40 into town approaching slow on the a40 into town approaching gypsy corner in actonpretty much all day, lots of sunshine around, a gorgeous autumn day. temperatures yesterday got to 23. today we may even see 24 celsius in central london. pleasantly warm in the sunshine with a light breeze around of course too. 0vernight we are going to see changes. staying mild, temperatures remaining in double figures for the most part. but this cloud coming down from the north is a cold front, and behind it is some cooler air. tomorrow still dry, still some sunshine around but also plenty of cloud. look at the dip in temperatures, 16 celsius, that's where we'll tend to stay on the weekend. we could start on saturday with a bit of rural frost. i'll be back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on the website. but now, let's go back to charlie and naga. bye— bye. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today: more patients should be treated at the scene by paramedics. the health watchdog says it could