adalja, i want to talk about the mystery of the moment.inistry for the president of the united states and a mystery for the person who lives three doors down from lisa abramowicz trying to figure out what to do next on covid. what is the timeline forward of this variant? what does the research show of what to expect one week out and three weeks out and a glide path of cases, hospitalizations and deaths. dr. adalja: we have to see if this is bull to the u -- extrapolated for the u.s.. two to three weeks seems to be what it takes for it to peak and then to rapidly decline. not because it's infecting everyone but affecting those who are most susceptible. that's what people are predicting will happen may be the next couple of days to weeks we should be able to see if that pattern holds. it is going to cause a lot of disruption in its wake as many people get infected and we worry about hospitalizations. even if they are lower, at least being a magnitude big enough for some hospitals that are already at capacity to get pushed over the edge. tom:

amesh adalja there. how may times have we mentioned that, the endgame?ain we are talking about the endgame. over the weekend, a story in the guardian, a senior sorcerer on the government, the u.k. government looking and atone -- ending mandatory self isolation for positive covid-19 cases and placing it with guidance. the government is likely to lift the requirement for travelers taking the test. all of this could end by march. that is the government in the u.k. right now preparing for the endgame. tom: my head is spinning over this. i honestly do not know which way to turn, particularly as we come on a martin luther king day and everybody starts looking at february and march vacations and such. i have no idea where we are going in terms of testing. jon: we are looking to the u.k.. the problem the u.k. has is is this being shaped by the polls or by the science? we hope it is the latter and not the former. the government has a bit of a credibility problem at the moment. tom: this is a good time not to talk about the talks. but does the prime minister make

amesh adalja there.s for the chinese communist party and their approach to dealing with this pandemic. lisa: it's always been a possibility and its detriment because people are not learning to live with the virus. the key test will be the olympics, how do they open their borders to the world and have this global competition at a time when they are utterly shocked with zero covid policies? jon: it will be fascinating to see how this plays out in the next month or so. tom: i don't think they will open the olympics. didn't we see something -- didn't you mention this where they would not allow clapping? lisa: and cheering. tom: why do we think they will open the olympics? i don't think they are. jon: coming up, the cio of pws america. he will weigh in on the market and the massive turnaround we saw on the nasdaq just yesterday. the nasdaq this morning up .6%. on the s&p 500, up 19. up .4%. from new york on radio and tv, for our audience worldwide, lisa, tom, and jonathan. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ >> the aim of

amesh adalja joins us now.damage -- define an endemic for new york or someone living with three masts on and afraid to go to a restaurant and another state where there are no masks. what is an endemic and the two different states from coast to coast? dr. adalja: it means with the people. it means this is an infectious disease part of everyday life, the sort of trade-off you pay to live in civilized society with social interaction. we see ups and downs, a baseline number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths but we do not see hospitals going into crisis. that is the remaining pin that needs to be put in place, that we need to get hospitals in place. dealing with an and deming disease, each person's risk tolerance will dictate -- with an endemic disease, each person's risk tolerance will dictate. tom: do we need masks if we are fully vast canadian -- fully vaccinated? do we need to work from home if we are fully vaccinated? dr. adalja: my answer to that is no, because you are then protected what matters. there ar

amesh adalja. he focused onned pandemic preparedness and bio security. you can this confuse over what it means to be fully vaccinated especially in light of the fact that lots of people have three shots. some of them have had covid and they still get omicron. >> it goes back to what we're trying to achieve, serious disease, hospitalization and death. for that purpose, two shots of the pfizer and two shots of j&j are prevent you from having hospitalization risks. that's what fully vaccinated should mean. boosters make sense for people above the age of 65, people with underlying conditions. for those individuals, we need a different vaccine regiment. i don't think we should change the definition of fully vaccinated. i don't think you can say someone with two shots of verizoner is at risk for severe disease. there's a confusion over fully vaccinated and being up to date. >> martha: with omicron, what are you observing with how long people are contagious for and is the five-day quarantine sufficient? >> we've known the ten-day isolation period has been one s

adalja, sometimes i feel like the white house is trapped. they're so eager to follow the science and not be influencing and changing the cdc the way that the trump white house did with the political hacks, shall we say, directing public relations for the cdc and not letting them have news conferences. they were so eager to show the independence of the cdc and of dr. walensky that at times they don't control the messaging. mine, they sort of can't win on this? >> it's very difficult when it comes to public health communication, and i think a lot of it stems from the fact we never really articulate goals from where we go in this pandemic. where do we go? what are we trying to achieve? i think that mixed messaging, understanding of the quarantine guidelines, changes in mask guidance, all of that stems from really even in my field a lack of understanding of where we're headed. we know that this virus is not going anywhere, that it's going to become endemic and we're heading toward that. then you can interpret all of the guidance in light of wher

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adalja was wonderful yesterday. what should the cdc do? apd cr, we tried it, doesn't work -- pcr, we tried it, doesn't work and we need to look at rapid testing? dr.bhakti: the messages we just don't have enough tests, access to tests -- rapid tests are expensive and not available to a major part of our society. if you are symptomatic, you should isolate the full 10 days. after five days from the outset, most people will be on infectious but about 31% will continue to be infectious and there is a risk they will continue to transmit the virus onwards. tom: you are a claim -- your acclaim worldwide, i don't think that describes america. how did we get in a spot where we don't have enough rapid tests? dr. hansoti: we had a lot of tests available within the facility. the consumer market, rapid tests were approved by the fda. a number of tests -- there was over 400 tests approved that are not rapid tests but there is distribution, marketshare, and the pricing of the tests which really can cause delays in making sure everyone has access to a tes

let's bring in amesh adalja, infection disease specialist. you here, doctor as always. let's tackle these one at a time. the new omicron variant that there's evidence of a couple of cases up, what do we know about it? >> this is sort of a sister of the main omicron variant. it's been around some time. it's in denmark, the u.k. taking off and maybe outcompeting the original version of omicron, the one that everybody is familiar with. we don't know if it's more severe. i doubt if it will be more severe or have any differences in terms of the vaccine or any of the treatments because they're related to each other. it's something that we'll have to wait and see what happens to it. i don't think it's a time for panic. we have to characterize it, understand what its role is and the same things that we're doing to keep omicron at bay with vaccines, anti-virals, anti-bodies, making sure hospitals are okay, all of that will apply if it is a problem. it may not necessarily change the trajectory. it became the dominant version of omicron. >> martha: i wa

dr adalja did explain that with kids or adults.don't really help if you need to keep taking it off inside because you can't breathe. there's a lot of emphasis on respirators like k and 95 95 kf 94, but i think it's really important to make sure that people wear the mask correctly that if you're wearing one of those high filtration masks, we can't wear it. it's not going to really do much use and also remember that masks are more about risk preferences for people at this point. stephanie remembers reporting for us now federal guidelines and cloth k and 95 95 mass can be found on the cdc website. apple will reportedly require it's employees who work in stores and in corporate offices to get the covid-19 booster shot. initial reports from the verge say the new policy requires workers to get their booster within four weeks of eligibility. if an employee chooses not to get the booster, they'll have to take covid tests frequently starting on february 15th last month, apple said it was delaying the return to the office for employees indef

we talk about omicron with our annmarie hordern earlier this morning, and amesh adalja of johns hopkinsrsity. joining us now from washington, mario drops by with his coverage of the white house. what is so important, mario parker, is the idea of what the president does with his congress. what i noticed during my covid was democrats in retirement. how close to retirement is nancy pelosi, who nears her 82nd birthday in march? mario: that has been the wave. last night, a surprise for me. a native chicagoan, representative bobby rush, the only person to be barack obama in an election -- to beat barack obama in an election, says he will not run again. there has been this older guard of seasoned and veteran democrat lawmakers, and now folks are wondering when they are going to start heading for the exit and whether it is time for new leadership. nancy pelosi is not immune to some of those considerations at all. now there is talk about who may be potential successors. maybe hakeem jeffries, pramila jayapal, what it means for the direction of the party, the ideology of the party. we have seen t

amesh adalja. thank you for joining us. dr. fauci is it talking about the reduced quarantine from 10 days to five days. the cdc says no test. dr. fauci suggests they could have a test. what are your thoughts on that? >> we had data for some time the one size fits all 10 day isolation period really didn't reflect where transmission was occurring t tended to be clustered in the early days of infection for most people and i think we tried to get to a precision-guided isolation pea. i think tests will make that easier to do. some people may be five days, four days, six days. we get to the point people can test themselves all the time to know their status to make decisions based upon it. that is what we'll likely see the cdc guidance evolve to. there is shortage of tests, it is so scares in. parts of the country it was not operationally feasible there. is reflection on that and criticism. hopefully we will get precision-guided isolation periods to use tests as a great piece of technology to live in this pandemic world. ashley: part

amesh adalja. i want to start with something dr. in an attempt to clarify the cdc's comments about this messaging about what it means to be fully vaccinated. >> it's this issue of what fully vaccinated means versus when you're optimally protected. that's what i believe the director of the cdc was saying that when you get to that point, you need to be up to date so the boost is necessary. it's not necessary one month after the original vaccination, but as you get out to five months, the protection wanes. that's what you mean by keeping up to date to be optimally vaccinated and optimally protected. that's i believe what she meant. >> i'm kind of lost here on the messaging. so it's possible to be fully vaccinated but not optimally protected. is this the question of how many antibodies are dancing on the head of a pin or does it matter how we talk about this? what are they trying to say? >> what they're trying to say is our vaccines work extremely well, but over time they may wane. think don't wane in everybody. this is the problem with

adalja. he's an infectious disease specialist sorry about your name there.g a school on how to keep kids in the classroom, what would you be recommending >> i would recommend they get their children vaccinated, get all the staff and employees vaccinated and use the guidance that the cdc has provided of testing to stay, so if you have exposure, you don't need to send the whole classroom home you can test people. if they're negative, they can stay the priority has to be in-person schooling because children have been really damaged by the pandemic not because of what the virus did to them but what adults did to them. so there are best practices. and remember, in the pre-vaccine era, we could keep schools open even when the pandemic was raging outside school doors. this has to be the default >> interesting some schools are also requiring students to wear n-95 masks or encouraging double masking is that a realistic ask, and how much of a difference does it make >> i don't think it's a realistic ask because an n-95 mask for anybody who has worn it, it's not easy t

amesh adalja, thank you for being here. >> thanks.lympic athletes heading to the winter games. the hot topic buzz, next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ deposit, plan and pay with easy tools from chase. simplicity feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. . dagen: time for "hot topic buzz," bring the burn tore beijing warning from u.s. olympic committee over surveillance concerns traveling to china leave personal electrons at home coca-cola intel, airbnb feeling increased pressure over corporate sponsorship for the games this is the backdrop is china's human rights abuses, and concentration camps, should athletes be worried common place to travel to china from united states to take a burner -- jon: i think athletes worried might not have as much to lose as say an executive with corporate secrets, but as you say it is commonplace someone is going to be starring into your phone -- as soon as you walk into china. i wonder even if you have a burner phone if you have open accounts on instagram or square are they fining a way into that a bigger picture of

amesh adalja, -- vandana hari.s the demand side of this picture look to you, particularly as we got the omicron variant of coronavirus raging across the world. >> good morning when it comes to demand this year, i would probably put it in two buckets. you mentioned omicron. it is important to talk short-term, let's say the next couple of months. opec-plus believes omicron impact is going to be shallow and short-lived. i would tend to agree. what we are seeing through this quarter is that some of the demand rebound we saw last year is continuing, but there has been a crimp on demand. we have seen countries put in place a lot of restrictions on international travel. the holiday season, christmas season did not bring about as much travel spending, getting together, as one expected. i do believe it is short and shallow, the impact. looking out on the whole year, we saw a tremendous rebound in demand last year from the reopening, obviously compared to 2020 when demand collapsed. i believe this year we are going to see ec