adam bain is -- adam bain is like nice. >> yes. >> i remember continuing with the wife analogy my wife that guy's the nicest guy in the world. could be good for them change of pace change of pace. >> speaking of disrupters, jack ma of course has been the focus of david faber for the past 12, 18 hours that exclusive, david. walk us through it >> yeah. you know, carl, of course we're here at gateway 17 this is an event that was put together by alibaba sometime back and hats been attended or will be attended by 3,000 small and medium-sized businesses here in detroit not all of them from detroit, i should say the event is in detroit. they're being drawn from all over the country, but particularly sort of the heartland to give them a sense as to the power of the alibaba platform to allow them to reach the consumer in china. it's all part of, of course, jack ma's globalization, he being a key evangelist for globalization in a time when really is t would seem to be in retreat. that was an area that he and i talked a good deal about in our interview. take a listen. >> my belief is a globalizat