. >>> hi, my name is adam bowen. i'm the co-founder of a company called plume, a san francisco based business, small business. we design, manufacture, and sell smoking alternatives. so, our product is not an e-cigarette per se, but it's similar in that it emits a vapor that contains nicotine and flavorings [speaker not understood] and similar types of compounds like e-cigarette. so, i'm here to speak on behalf of my company, but also on behalf of myself as a former smoker and many smokers looking for alternatives. i think that we've clearly seen a number of people switch to electronic cigarettes or this type of product successfully and a major part of that is the ability to use it indoors. i think that by restricting the indoor use of these products and the absence of hard data to suggest that they are a harmful as cigarettes is -- >> i don't think we're saying they're as harmful, but they are saying they are harmful based on the boatload of research that many of the ucsf researchers have given us. >>> so, i know the