who, adam clayton powell actually championed nixon in the black commitment during his tenure as vice president, and according to an autobiography, powell was snubbed in favor of morrow when an opportunity rose for a back tell gate to travel with nixon's administration. how do you feel -- that was a consistent pattern when, and it was very selective. although all three of those congressmen were democrats, and, obviously, would have not been the first choice just for that reason on its own, there was a very selective policy, i mean, it was something of the period and the time and the racial politics, but for it to have been limited in a circumstance like that to be able to say, well, we'll select one of these three congressmen, and the other two will be decisively turned away. how do you feel like something like that affects the legacy of a man who already has kind of a -- he has a very divided depending on how you can judge his relationship with king and then some of the other things that he did? >> well, this was the eisenhower administration. eisenhower had no, eisenhower was