and that was significant because you had people like adam clayton-powell, jake yo jacob se leaders important civil rights movement in congress and it was very important that they be there. >> yes. well, of course the whole purpose of the march was to get congress for pass legislation and these congressmen were on our side. but we also knew when so many people showed up, we were only a small band of people comparatively. hundreds of thousands of people showed up, we all knew something was in the air and something might happen. >> let's look at another picture of a very important figure who was there. bob, you photographed rosa parks that day, you had photographed her before. what was your impression of here? >> well, rosa parks was a great heroin and, by the way, contemporary to earlier information, both she and i think miss height spoke at the rally at the washington monument. so there were women speaking there. but rosa parks appeared in every one of doc's events and i photographed her at the -- at his funeral and i must have taken maybe two or three rolls of film, that would be 60 or 80 ph

one of arts of politics in a conversation that i had with adam clayton powell many years ago, he commented to me that among the arts of politics is to be able to compromise. these people don't have that art. and they don't have that mind cell phone set. and that is -- mindset. and that is what they feel their constituents require of them, and i don't make any argument about that. let's don't just tiptoe around. the leadership is in the position of having to deal with these obstructionists, and then that ease causing, basically, the problems that you all are having and, basically, the problems that the leadership is having of trying to get measures passed. and i just thought to myself the tale in this particular session -- the tail in this particular session of congress is wagging the dog, the alligator, the donkey and the elephant. and there's no question in my mind about that, and somebody needs to say it and talk to these people. i don't deem them mean, i don't deem them crazy, i just deem them not understanding the extraordinary process that allows for us to have the democracy that we h