world, the arrest of dominique moyes the directing director of the imf we begin with dan abrams and adam gopnik. >> my sources tell me that it is going to be more likely the latter, which is now that they have dna evidence, they have physical evidence, i think the defense is stuck. >> and they might say we are just telling the truth. >> but i think their options are limited based on the physical evidence to say that, yes, something happened there, but it wasn't criminal, it wasn't forced. >> earlier today i covered the same story with three people watching it closely from paris, steven erlanger of the new york times, dominique moisi and natalie nougayrede, the diplomatic correspond democratic for french newspaper lamons. >> i think it is true there are different reactions in france and i think the reaction from the concern about the women who may have been his victim only came out quite belatedly, i mean it was literally almost a day and a half before some public commentaries starting say well maybe we should be expressing some concern and, you know, empathy for this woman and not just be scand

perspective and reflection we talk with presidential historian and author dorr rinse kearns goodwin adam gopnik, essayist for the "new yorker" magazine. >> osama's left in our minds a certain uncertainty. what do we know about what he's doing in only a year ago you had folks in washington saying we haven't had any intelligence about him for years. so that uncertainty is now gone. we now can say for ourselves that people like him can be got no matter how safe and we are transfering that uncertainty to ayman al-zawahiri and everybody around him. we're now looking out of their windows wherever they are. they're not in caves. they're looking out of their windows and wondering when does that helicopter come with me? >> williams: we conclude with an interview charlie taped with steve levy of "wired" magazine whose new book is called "in the plex: how google works, shapes, and changes our lives." the biggest challenge is thinking like a small company when it's so big. this has bedeviled the founders since the company started growing at a rapid rate in the early 2000s. >> rose: have to maintain the cul