audrey cornish, all things considered, kate snow, and adam grant.ssor at university of pennsylvania and author of the book" think again colon the power of knowing what you don't know." >>> a poll number from gallup, has life returned to pre-pandemic normal? somewhat normal, 62%, not normal yet, 23%. how would you have answered that question? >> i think it's pretty obvious that normal left us a long time ago. i heard you talking earlier about post-covid. there is no such thing as post-covid, especially when you listen to those global vaccination rates. while many americans are hesitant to take the vaccine, it is available to them. so now it's a matter of how do we live with this going forward? how do you approach mitigation measures if and when necessary? and how do some of the industries which have been culturally disrupted as a result deal with that now? >> you saw a case of ridership. this is an open air event in attendance for the cleveland baseball team. it's basically down from more than a third on june 19 pre-pandemic to the most recent month

audie cornish, host of all things considered, kate snow, our senior national correspondent here and adam grantr of the book "think again: if power of knowing what you don't know.m gp has life completed to normal how would you have answered that question >> i think it's pretty obvious that normal left us a long time ago. i heard you talking about post covid. there's no such thing as post covid. while many americans are hesitant to take the vaccine that is available to them. now it's a matter of how do we live with this going forward how do we approach mitigation measures if and when necessary and how do some of the industries that have been sort of culturally disrupted as a result deal with that now? >> kate snow, you saw the graphic about subway ridershipn the cleveland baseball team and show just attendance -- this is an open air event, and attendance for the cleveland baseball team is basically down more than e of '19 prepandemic to the most recent completed month here. i think this is proof that we are not normal yet and maybe we're not going to be. >> yeah. two things i think we're not nor

our next witness is adam grant. he's been recognized as one of the world's most ten influential thinkers. he's the author of five books that's been translated into 35 languages. it's opinion recognized as the most influential researchers in business and economics. dr. grant, you are recognized for five minutes to present your testimony. >> thank you. it's a great honor and a daunting challenge to figure out how to improve the culture of congress. none of these will not have anything to do with incentives. i want to talk about the norms and the values that the chair referenced earlier. the place i might start is an outsider to congress is with on boarding. i know every great culture has an on boarding program. stories are told. culture is communicated through the stories we tell. there's experiment done a few years ago where new hires are given a chance to engage with stories about things that have happened that make up the culture of the organization. if you hear a story about a junior person doing something that's

our next witness is adam grant. dr. grant is an organizational psychologist and a leading expert on how we can find motivation and meaning and live more generous and creative lives. he's been recognized as one of the world's ten most influential management thinkers and one of fortune's 40 under 40. dr. grant is the author of five books that have been translated into 35 languages and also hosts work/life, a chart-topping original podcast, which i listen to when i walk to the capitol. he has received awards for distinguished scholarly achievement from the academy of management, the american psychological association and has been recognized as one of the world's most cited, most prolific, and most influential researchers in business and economics. i believe he also scored a 10 out of 10 from room rater. so, dr. grant, you are now recognized for five minutes to present your testimony. >> thank you, chair kilmer, and vice chair timmons, members of the committee and staff. it's a great honor and also a daunting challenge to f

adam says grant saying he smashed the first version of the clan and pushed reconstruction. radical experiment of democracy that ended too soon. deborah from twitter saying i admire many things about him, washington for the first peaceful transfer of power prayed in my life i admire jimmy carter. former president obama for the affordable care act and wearing the presidency with intelligence he -- intelligence and humor. you can pick your favorite president and also tell us why that person is your favorite on the phone lines, 202-748-8000 free democrats -- for democrats, 202-748-8001 for republicans and independents, 202-748-8002. democrats line, you are next. caller: good morning. my favorite president is fdr. he got the united states out of the great depression in his new deal policies and his social security basically set up social security for older folks when they retired, to have some type of income. my second favorite president is bill clinton. he also set up some basic structure and he was also one of the presidents who got us out of the surplus of money just like fdr

adam says grant saying he smashed the first version of the clan and pushed reconstruction.al experiment of democracy that ended too soon. deborah from twitter saying i admire many things about him, washington for the first peaceful transfer of power prayed in my life i admire jimmy carter. former president obama for the affordable care act and wearing the presidency with intelligence he -- intelligence and humor. you can pick your favorite president and also tell us why that person is your favorite on the phone lines, 202-748-8000 free democrats -- for democrats, 202-748-8001 for republicans and independents, 202-748-8002. democrats line, you are next. caller: good morning. my favorite president is fdr. he got the united states out of the great depression in his new deal policies and his social security basically set up social security for older folks when they retired, to have some type of income. my second favorite president is bill clinton. he also set up some basic structure and he was also one of the presidents who got us out of the surplus of money just like fdr did.

grant, jefferson, adams, there were so many examples of these books really mattering.t is when i started to realize that there was a story to tell here. susan: your book is also, and you alluded to this, the history of nonfiction book publishing in america. why do you tell that part of the story? craig: that is what helps us realize how important these books have been. even if you read a good biography about a lot of the presidents i talk about, their books don't come up. there books are not central. -- their books are not central. biographers and historians have a lot of work to do. they are worrying about the white house, policies, and legislative debate. my book is about the human side and the publishing side and running for office. without that context, you can't realize how important these books are. i will give you an example from lincoln. when lincoln's book came out, it was a bestseller because people cared. slavery was a huge issue, everybody wanted to know where the candidates stood. but it was also a bestseller because of steam powered engines. trains were f

grant language of say, states be on the lookout. you should not be passing these type of laws and also more adamant language to congress to fix this problem immediately. and christmas goes without saying, but the move to push. so many voter disenfranchisement laws have been a direct result of trump. big lie of election brought in 2020 election. and the one that had been carried by the republican party and state republican party across the country. soaking republican war is over election integrity largely in states where the minority vote, black, brown, native americans strongly went for joe biden. that has really cause a lot of b with all that is basically the backdrop of these restrictive boating laws that have come about over the past year. last month, the brennan center for justice reported that 22 new voting laws had been enacted in 389 proposed in 48 states. 48 of the 50 following the 2020 election. trump actions, the republicans actions the parties, actions have had consequences, destroying a major cornerstone democracy. chris, in all honesty and i know that you're going to give it to us straight. can we undo it? if not, if we can u

adam serwer recently wrote a piece in "the atlantic" where he essentially says democratic lawmakers are betraying black voters and many in the democratic party take black votes for grantedve essentially. do you agree that democrats are taking black voters for granted, especially because the white house has said, well, people will just outorganize voter suppression? >> what i believe is that this is not jim crow, this is james crow, esquire. when you look at these voter suppression bills across the country, they're going after everybody, black folk, white folk, black folk, native, asian people, the disabled, women. we've got to look at what this is. now, race is certainly there, but it's also connected to power and economics because the same people that are suppressing the vote, suppress living wages, suppress health care. so what democrats have to decide, you ran on this and said you were going to do this. you said you were going to deal with voter suppression and deal with living wages, those two things. we've already seen the filibuster block living wages. now we see it blocking voting rights. we must have end of the filibuster, passing the real john lewis bill, the f

granted power through the very system they sought to overturn. that is a lesson. that is not a conspiracy theory or a counter narrative. we don't blame victims. we go after the criminals. host: adaminzinger put on that panel i speaker pelosi along with representative liz cheney. adam kinzinger writes, the questions i want answered. here are some of them. was it organized. when did our government leaders know of the impending attacks and what were their responses. what level of preparation or warnings did law enforcement have. was there coordination between the rioters and any members of congress or staff. virginia in waldorf, maryland. republican. we will go to you next. >> there's only one thing that really stood out to me and that was in the house floor when they were saying call trump and have him call his gang off or his followers off. how more apparent credit the then trump was behind this. these people representing us said to call trump, they must have known something. i just think it is so disgraceful. i have no intentions of ever supporting a republican again. host: did you vote for president trump in 2016? caller: no. host: did you leave before the january 6 attack? call