>> what do we know, adam hicks?reports from an interview with the next-door neighbor that there is maybe a possibility of some mental abuse from the father, the stepfather of the family, but no physical abuse, no reports of that. >> mental abuse on whom, adam hicks? mental abuse on whom? >> we've heard that from the stepfather matthew hess, we have heard from the neighbor that he may have been saying some negative things about his wife, jeanette hess. from a report we have from the next door neighbor. >> talking to a neighbor about your wife -- >> no, no, talking to the children about his wife. >> oh. talking to the two stepdaughters about their mother. dr. patricia saunders, that puts everything in a whole new life. >> yeah, it does. one possible scenario is that he abducted these girls to punish the mother, to deprive her of a potential grandchild that looked like it was planned. the girls were packed up, they went. or maybe she wanted to turn the baby over to the state and he said no way, that the girl wanted to