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joining us now is adam jentleson, former senior senate aide to harry reid, author of "kill switch: the rise of the modern senate and the crippling of american democracy." it's a pleasure to have you here tonight. thanks so much for your time. >> it's great to be here, rachel. thank you so much for having me. >> when i say that i don't have much hope that anything else is going to get through the senate and that the filibuster is going to stand and it's going to block the ability of democrats to pass anything else, do you think that there's something important that i'm missing? because you don't seem quite as cynical about those prospects. >> well, rachel, you know, i look back at 2013 and where we were in march of 2013. and of course, in november of 2013, we did go nuclear and reform senate rules to lower the threshold for confirming nominees, and i feel like we are way ahead of schedule. what we have right now -- you know, if you told me earlier this year that by this point in march, we would have already had president biden shift his position and joe manchin shift his position, i wou

because if you trace the history adam jentleson is on one of your shows earlier this morning.s written that story, "kill switch," which traces the history. the filibuster can run after the civil war because of those white people living in the south and those representing them in the senate who did not want to give the african-americans the power to vote. so they were restricting their right to vote, just as we see happening across the united states today. they protected their right to do it, if there is such a thing, with the filibuster. we are back in history to 150, 160 years ago. >> so, given what you just said, how are you going to pass the bill? >> it's a good question. i hope that we have some republicans who break from others and join us in this effort. but without that, the 60-vote margin would stop us. >> let's turn to what you heard from our interview with secretary mayorkas. you said this week that the votes aren't there in the senate for a comprehensive immigration bill, which your colleague senator bob menendez suggested was prematurely waving the white flag. you'