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bill: adam kinzinger is with us. the general basically lacerated the entire policy coming out of the administration. >> i think he's largely right. what policy has the president articulated? it seems he made the decision to manage the isis problem the next couple years and the next president will have to come in and deal with it. sir yeah is the incubator of isis. that's where the extremism is being spewed out from. we can manage iraq and we'll have to bring it sunni militias on board. they haven't been adequately engaged and the president has not articulated a strategy in syria other than to say bark say bashar al-assad has to go. bill are also said congress has a responsibility here. what is your responsible? >> i agree to an extent. we have a responsibility if the president presents us with the use of military force. if he does that we have to do everything to help him destroy isis. we should debate it. that rests on the president of the united states. he has that responsibility. so there needs to be more coordina

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confident it could be carried out. >> pamela brown, thanks very much. >>> joining us congressman adam kinzingery much for joining us. i know you are in the u.s. air force reserves you are still a pilot. you have a personal stake given the fact you fought and saw some of your friends die in afghanistan, come back in bad shape as well. what do you make of the new development that they are moving closer and closer and closer to this air base where there are a few hundred u.s. marines and other u.s. military advise sneakersers? >> it's frightening because we have troops in harm's way. they will be able to defend themselves. the soldiers and marines are very good at what they do. personally i spend multiple tours there fighting hard to win peace in iraq. many people fought harder than i did. to watch it fall apart is tragic. and i went back about four months ago up into the kurdistan region. >> the central government in baghdad, whether maliki's government -- i know there's new government that the new government is better. i haven't seen a lot of evidence. have you? >> there's hope. but we have to d

adam kinzinger, who fights these wars weighed in on those events. >> it's middle east justice. than we think in the west frankly, this is the kind of response that says you're serious about destroying isis. i watched the video yesterday by the way. i wouldn't suggest -- it's every person's decision, but it was one of the most brutal things i've ever seen and it goes to show the barbaric and frankly satanic nature of this enemy that we fight. look, i think jordan's probably got more middle east justice to come and it will be frankly kind of nice to see -- >> one of the things about jordan, last week they were negotiating with isis, they thought. they were under the assumption that the japanese fellow the hostage and the pilot were still alive because they said yeah they're alive. the pilot was burned to death on january 3, the jordanians say. so everything that happened last week was just a sham. this video right here where they douse that guy's clothes in gasoline and then light him on fire is the most disgusting thing i have ever seen in my life. >> you're not the only one, st

. >> and congressman adam kinzinger joins us. good evening sir. and just to go back. secretary kerry says yesterday we are actually living in a less daily threat to americans and people in the world normally meanwhile today. dni director james clapper says 2014 will be the most lethal year. somebody is dead wrong. >> well, it's amazing. it seems like the administration is blaming the 224-hour news cycle for the perception that isis is out of control and people are being beheaded. it's happening and james clapper, you know, showed the data. the data is this is the most violent year we have had since we have been recording terrorist attacks. look, secretary kerry may be right in saying look, people are are being pulled out of poverty at greater levels. that's true. that's happening in africa, for instance as western values have democracy capitalism. what's penetrating africa is n. a huge way is isis, is terrorism, is radical jihadism and leading to these deaths. >> this is what secretary kerry says less deaths, less violent deaths today than through the last century. th

congressman adam kinzinger joins us, good evening sir. >> thanks for having me. >> you are also military yourself. let me ask you, are you going to vote for the president's resolution. >> i don't want to say yes or no yet. what i saw and this is going to go through different iterations when it goes through hearings. what i saw worries me for several reasons. number one, when it comes to warfare you never say what you can't do or wouldn't do. this puts a three year timetable on the president's authorization to isis it can be extended but we may in a totally different political environment in three years. can change it in three years. whatever. >> it is also saying fight isis for three years and if we don't defeat them we gave it the old college try. the other one that very much concerns me is talks about offensive ground operations basically are prohibited in this. well, i don't think we need large ground scale troops right now, i never take option os off the table the message it sends to the enemy of what you are not willing to do. in essence the existence of isis is bad unless it takes

congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the house committee, and republican congressman adam kinzingerin the air force as a pilot in iraq and afghanistan. i want to start with you, congressman schiff, on the attacks overnight in copenhagen. is there any information you're hearing that this is tied in any way to isis or al qaeda? >> the intelligence community is telling me they don't know. we're trying to get to the bottom of it. was this self-radicalization. was this a copy cat of what happened in paris? it's too early to tell. >> let's get to the debate on the war resolution. this is a fascinating debate. because first of all adam schiff, you're a democrat, you want to give the president less options. you want to tie his hands a little bit more. you, congressman kinzinger, you are a republican. you want to give him more options. i want to ask both of you, looking at the debate, what is at stake if congress takes this up and fails to pass the resolution? what does it say to the rest of the world? >> that congress can't get its act together. and to future presidents, that congress is an

adam kinzinger served in the iraq war. he joins me now. what is that approach? what does that mean? >> i don't think it's been articulated well by the administration. jeh johnson says we can't kill if they are recruiting faster, i agree. so we have got to kill more, kill as many as we can and as quickly as we can and we have to to roll back momentum of isis. when the chicago bears are doing well everybody is a bears fan. isis is so successful that these folks that are prone to jihadism are joining. i think it takes a pretty intense action to roll back isis. bill: the characterization of where we are in this battle was addressed by eric holder. already this morning i'll have a clarification on that. i'll play you what he said. >> you don't use an extreme example. in world war ii if a reporter found out about the existence of the manhattan project, is that something that should have been disclosed? we are in a time of war and it's an extreme example. bill: we are not at a time of war. this tweet from the public affairs office for eric holder. he meant akin to world war ii, he absolute

martha: adam kinzinger. thank you very much. bill: white house has seems mixed up.ector of national intelligence moments ago telling a senate panel never seen the dangerous times in our country about but the secretary state of state. we will sort that out. martha: both navy seals wrote books about their harrowing encounters in iraq and afghanistan. marcus luttrell reacts to the verdict in the "american sniper" trial. why he says the ptsd defense of murder of his good friend chris kyle is out of place. >> ptsd is not straight line to breaking the law, because if it is, you basically, you're saying if i have ptsd i can slap somebody around all i want and cops show up claim i'm a veteran i have ptsd. that is not how that works. ♪ help an oil company overcome minus 47 degree temps, 5 foot ice, and 16 foot waves, to safely keep crude oil flowing 365 days a year. when emerson takes up the challenge it's never been done before simply becomes consider it solved. emerson. bill: strong new reaction on the guilty verdict in the "american sniper" murder trial. eddie routh convi

joining us adam kinzinger of illinois a member of the house foreign affairs committee.g us. i know this is a huge issue for ukraine. do you want the administration to immediately start providing weapons to ukraine? >> i think we have to. i think it's time. we have talked about this for a year. the president came to congress and said look you can't defend freedom with blankets. >> the president of ukraine? >> came and said you can't defend freedom with blankets. this is a military that hasn't had any influx of new military equipment since the breakup of the soviet union. it's a country that gave up its nuclear weapons under this promise of freedom and integrity. now i think the united states is in a position to say, look you need to have the tools and the ability to defend yourself. we're not giving -- we're not giving ukraine weapons necessary to invade into russia just to defend their territory. >> anti-tank weapons. you are a veteran. here is the question. is the ukrainian military up to the job of standing up? if you believe russian troops have moved in in big number

you've got adam kinzinger and lindsey graham, they understand the threat and said it all along. for the most part the leadership, the republicans since they took over, i don't think they have any clue for a game plan for strategies because it is not being effective. when you say we're not sure about how we're going to green light or not green light. >> this is a matter for the commander in chief. >> that is fine but you also have to show leadership to push the commander in chief. right now why are they going on vacation? >> when he's asking for authorization for the use of military force, he is sort of wiping his hands clean of the situation and saying this is in your hands, congress. not only that but we're going to limit the language so our reach is shortened. it seems to place into question the intention of this administration in real battle in terms of defeating isis. >> sure. remember after the charlie hebdo attacks and remember how the leaders from around the world, 40 leaders linked arms in paris. our president wasn't there. we had heard he wasn't there because nobody eve