where does that leave us, adam kinzinger? ., how do we flush this unflushable turd? >> mr. kinzinger: [laughs] just keep flushing, man. poke it with a stick. you've got to get the stick out. >> stephen: next election is a year from sunday. if something happened, nothing bad. but say if mr. trump changed his mind and wanted to go stare at the sea for the rest of his life and not to be president of the united states, you know, happy. they say he's president and they give him an emmy. he's happy. who would you like to see get the nomination from what was once your party? >> mr. kinzinger: the two that i find acceptable to an extent. nikki haley. i wish she would speak out against trump more and chris christie because he's actually been speaking out against donald trump. there's three lanes, the trump lane, the nikki haley, the old establishment. chris christie for people who are really ticked off at donald trump. i think this is trump's to lose. everybody else on that debate stage is affirming donald trump the whole time. he's a

adam kinzinger: it's a shocking story and we've now heard from, at least a washington d.c. detective, something very similar. jake tapper: trump would return to the white house and watch his supporters heed his call to fight like hell. [indistinct shouting] here's why you should switch fo to duckduckgo on all your devie duckduckgo comes with a built-n engine like google, but it's pi and doesn't spy on your searchs and duckduckgo lets you browse like chrome, but it blocks cooi and creepy ads that follow youa from google and other companie. and there's no catch. it's fre. we make money from ads, but they don't follow you aroud join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. join the millions of people takin[music playing]ivacy the morning of january 6, what were your expectations for the day? sarah matthews: i think i woke up thinking that it was going to be a normal day. i just thought that he was going to go out there and give a speech and that, that would be it. jake tapper: sarah matthews is donald trump's former

adam kinzinger: it's a shocking story and we've now heard from, at least a washington d.c.tive, something very similar. jake tapper: trump would return to the white house and watch his supporters heed his call to fight like hell. [indistinct shouting] [music playing] the morning of january 6, what were your expectations for the day? sarah matthews: i think i woke up thinking that it was going to be a normal day. i just thought that he was going to go out there and give a speech and that, that would be it. jake tapper: sarah matthews is donald trump's former deputy white house press secretary and was in the white house on january 6. sarah matthews: it was kind of quiet to be honest in the west wing that morning at least. jake tapper: that quiet would not last long. after the speeches at the ellipse, the president returned to the white house and the rioters made their way to the capitol. speaker: they broke through. it's on! jake tapper: already aware of the increasing violence, trump went into the private dining room just off the oval office at 1:25 pm and remained there unt

we deserve better. >> let's bring back errol lewis, adam kinzinger and lee carter. i wonder specifically for you as a republican who decided to lead, who led the january 6th inquiry and who has also been so outspoken against trump, what did last night mean, he talked about the soul of our country. he talked about brooiavery, and talked about the character of the candidate being the most critical issue. >> it was a bit of an emotional speech for me to watch. >> i bet. >> because he's been the one that's been speaking to the heart of the part of the party that i would consider myself, which is like this whatever it is, 15, 20%, you probably have the bet anywhere else, of people that feel like we don't have a home anymore. we're homeless politically. and he's the one -- you know, with everything that liz and i went through, and we're not asking for sympathy on this, but it's amazing to me the number of republicans that in quiet, in silence and he talked about this in his speech -- would say, yeah, donald trump is completely unfit for office. or i'm so glad you're out t

. >> and joining me now is cnn senior political commentator david axlerod and adam kinzinger. let me start with you first, adam. your response to elise stefanik referring to january 6th criminals as hostages, parenting trump's talking points there. >> i mean, i wish i had 15 minutes to address this. you know, look, there's hostages right now in gaza. these people broke the law and the crazy thing is, with everyone of them, including elise, where they say people that broke the law should be in jail for january 6th as they were trying to defend donald trump, now all of a sudden they've become hostages. keep in mind, he plays -- i don't know if it's all his rallies, some of them, with the january 6th prisoners singing "god bless america" or the national anthem or something along that line. the video you showed with the people standing at the door in that standoff, that's mark wayne mullen and troy nils. mark wayne mullen said after ashlee bab bot was shot, that was a correct shooting by a law enforcement officer, which it was by the way, even though it was a tragic outcome, now he

. >> now holding back, there that's ph i'm joined tonight by former republican -- adam kinzinger and former obama administration van jones. thank you both for being here >>> security adviser of congress, for that matter the public. so it was a comedy of errors which i'm sure will be straightened up, and as a pointed, out forcibly there was no extremist situation that you know, really would have been a serious thing. i think had there been an external situation, that a lines of communication would have laid up pretty vigorously. >> yes i think that was the concern we heard from lawmakers like senator roger wicker who said, look at anytime in the, world obviously this job is critical, but given what is happening in the middle east and how on edge the region has been, the war in ukraine, just to highlight something we have just learned minutes ago, the marine corps, general eric smith, we have now learned he had open heart surgery today. they told us the marine corps announced unimpressed relief, he went into cardiac arrest on october 20, ninth we did know about that. they told us about

i'm going to start with you, the former congressman, adam kinzinger. i'll start by asking you for your thoughts on ron desantis. you served with him in the house and you've been watching this campaign. i'm guessing you're not surprised that he endorsed donald trump. but give me what's going through your head at this hour. >> yeah. i mean, my shock meter is just off the charts. like, no, i mean -- even in the attacks that you were playing, they were so mild. he's, like, oh, you know, donald trump didn't build the wall, didn't make mexico pay -- i mean, he was set up the whole time to be able to turn and endorse donald trump. i'll tell you one of donald trump's superpowers, if we're being honest, is he'll welcome you back into the fold. if i literally said, i changed my mind, i'm supporting trump now -- god forbid and i won't -- but if i did that, i could go to mar-a-lago tomorrow. that's what he does. he welcomes everybody into his warm embrace. so, ron desantis never once attacked him for the fact that he was indicted on 90 different counts of felonies

cnn political commentator, anna navarro, cnn political commentator, adam kinzinger, biden white house communications director, kate bedingfield, and former senior adviser to president obama david axelrod, all very senior and important and opinionated at this table. we're so glad you're here. i want to start with you, ax. >> some more senior than others. >> you were watching phil's magical -- everyone was glued to it very closely, that tied with what we just heard from jeff and kasie, is this thing wrapped up? >> look, i think the odds have been very long from the beginning for anyone taking on donald trump as he gained momentum. ironically with each indictment he picked up steam. you look at national polls right now, and you average them. he's got a 50 point lead. no one has ever -- thank you. no one has ever. >> putting ax's ear piece in. like i said, it takes a village. he is -- he's 50 points ahead. no one's ever had a lead like that is and lost the nomination at this point. and that's what makes this race different. it really is donald trump's party, and the problem is that these

and insisted on getting to the truth of what happened like liz cheney and adam kinzinger, and many of those who were initially critical have fallen into line as trump continues to portray that day as one filled with love and the rioters and insurrectionists now as hostages. i think it is really important to understand, not all of this rewriting of history, it's not only about looking back. it's about looking forward. it's not just trying to undo the stain of that day. it is basically sending a signal to trump supporters, a response to losing the election and i think the message for 2024 is pretty clear and pretty ominous. >> and trump has been out campaign trail this week. he's whitewash go, rewriting history. let's listen to what that to say. >> the hostages, go the j-6 hostages. nobody has been treated ever in history so badly as those people. those j-6 hostages going to jail for 20 years? 18 years? it will go down as one of the saddest things in the history of our country. by the way, there was antifa and there was fbi. there were a lot of other people there, too, leading the charg

guest: adam kinzinger was a republican but he hates all the republicans now.ot just donald trump but anybody who has ever supported donald trump. what that person is going to say when they come on the is going to basically line up with what all the democrats on the show are saying. are you getting fair and balanced? you are not getting a balance read you are getting a republican and a democrat who agree on everything. and that is one thing that people don't like. i guess you could say which republicans who want to hear donald trump speak are watching rachel maddow? cnn and msnbc want to cut that feed because their audience doesn't want to hear trump speak. that challenges the idea of a news channel who runs live news events. host: in the hill, they have a story about donald trump pledging to investigate msnbc's parent company for threatening treason. this was comcast who he is referencing. former president trump pledged to investigate comcast nbc and msnbc. if he is elected in 2024, saying they will be thoroughly scrutinized for their knowingly dishonest and c

. >> kasie hunt is also in new hampshire and also with is bakari sellers, adam kinzinger and kasie hunt, ipt to start with you. you have done the overnight flight. there has been a frame by donald trump and his supporters that this is done. this is a done deal. this is over. tell me what you're hearing from your republican sources on the ground in new hampshire. is that the case? >> reporter: i think the reality here is that it's more of the same than different. i think there's a real sense that had nikki haley manage d t edge out ron desantis, she would be coming into new hampshire with a much more significant head of steam than she is right now. i can tell you the last time i landed on this tarmac here in new hampshire after iowa, it was 2016. ted cruz was landing. all kinds of excitement. the only person to come with us this time was nikki haley, with who we ran into at the small airport where charter planes fly out of in des moines. she was heading here. her staff seemed to have a steely mood about them the. it was obviously the end of a very long night, but i wouldn't say that you

we are joined now by tia mitchell, adam kinzinger and kate bedingfield all with us. tia, to you first. you have the president beginning this year with extremely weak approval numbers. what's his move? what is the white house planning here to combat this? >> well, i think the white house would say they're going to stay the course, continue to tell the story of what they believe president biden has accomplished in his first three years in office, but i do think, you know, in tangent but separately he does have a campaign that i think we're going to continue to see ramp up, particularly in the swing states, particularly as the republican field starts taking shape, probably march and april. so we'll be hearing more i think from biden than we have maybe politically campaignwise as 2024 continues. >> i wonder, congressman, what you think biden needs to do to attract some disaffected republican voters or maybe former republican voters who don't really feel like they have a home between joe biden and donald trump. >> oh, you're speaking to my heart now. look, i think there's

i will say quickly, adam kinzinger, i talked to him last night and he said listening to him actually hurt because they served together for so long in the house. >> and he's such a different politician than donald trump. a great interview. we'll see more of the interview with judge jude judy later tod. >> donald trump is defending mocking nikki haley's birth name. >> we'll ask former candidate turned haley supporter and i sha hu asa hutchinson about the attacks. >>> you know, vivek just came with us. and now ron just came with us. they are all coming with us. they are all coming. senator tim scott, what a good guy. he came with us. >> and then you've got trump saying, oh, but look at all these congressional endorsements i have. i don't want political -- i don't want the political elite. >> "cnn this morning" is live in new hampshire as donald trump and nikki haley get personal attacking one another now that it is a one-on-one match-up. >> with her, it is just something that came, a little bit of a takeoff on her name, you know, her name wherever she may come from. >> haley's family is

if you want a future in the republican party and don't want to be adam kinzinger or liz cheney lookingn from the outside, you want to stay in the club. however, if you have principles, if you meant what you said, tim scott, when you said we could choose grievance or greatness, if you meant that, you could say, listen, i'm not endorsing this. i think it's time to move on, and kind of take your chances. no one wants to lose. no one wants to lose their job, and it's so craven and small, but that's where the republican party is at right now. >> i wonder what you think, mike, she hasn't spent the money in south carolina that she spent in new hampshire. she talked about raising a million bucks, largely from donors under $200. it's not like desantis where she has a job she needs to get back to running a state. >> my state, the state where i live. it's so interesting that you say that, poppy, because here's the big rub for nikki haley right now, and i talked to somebody familiar with her campaign, it's that they haven't spent the money, like you said in south carolina. they put the chips into

these people include former lawmakers like liz cheney and adam kinzinger and former trump administration alyssa farah griffin, anthony scaramucci and former trump press aid sarah matthews. if you don't know who she is, frankly, neither do i. don't listen to the grifters trying to cash in by smashing trump. here's the truth. the party hasn't been this united in a long time, maybe since reagan. maybe after 9/11. and we have just one message. lookout, swamp. joining us now former trump senior adviser and founder of america first legal stephen miller. stephen, republicans uniting behind trump. that made me howl laughing tonight. >> you have, of course, laura, thee professional rinos. these are the people who make a living, going on cnn, going on abc, going on "the view," nbc, pretending to be republicans in support of biden when, of course, they are democrats. they have always been democrats. they have always been leftists and is a very easy way to make a buck in washington, new york, or los angeles. as you said, the republican party has never been more united than it is at this moment, part

those rules and kicked them off and would not allow them to serve on that committee and she put adam kinzinger and -- >> well -- >> and liz cheney. >> i know what you're saying. let me ask you -- you know, was the january 6th committee. and subpoenas were issued. and subpoenas were defied. congressman jordan defied the subpoena. congressman perry. there were a number of members of the house republican conference. they just defied those subpoenas. didn't they kind of make a subpoena sort of worthless? >> no, i don't think so. again, i don't think that's really a standing committee. nobody -- both sides knew that, what was up with that, jim. that thing was rigged from the beginning. i mean, you had abc help facilitate it one night so they could have their big -- when they would give out all the information. i don't know, i think more people watch re-runs of the cartoon network honestly. >> i think a lot of people watching it. it was a committee process that was investigating an attack on the capitol, not to go down that road, but that's what that committee was investigating. one of the most impo

liz cheney, mitt romney, adam kinzinger, assuming that he doesn't crack and that he does get the nomination, and dha he's the republican nominee, what do the never trumpers do now? where do they go? >> this is a tough moment, if you're a never trumper, because you could come away from 2016 going, you know what, it was weird, it was a fluke, it was a black swan event, and then in 2020 you could even say, well, he was the incumbent president so we stick with him. but it is the moment where you have to realize, the old republican party is done, it is. this is -- we just witnessed the wake, we have seen the body, and it is donald trump clearing the field, and winning in these first two states. and that doesn't mean that a new party can't emerge in the future, that doesn't mean forever, nothing is forever in politics. but it is a moment of reckoning, that this idea that if you just work hard enough you can get the old party back in the short run, i think that dream is dead for the short term. >> that's why we see nikki haley as such -- as this sort of walking ghost, if you will, of like the repu

senior political commentator, republican congressman adam kinzinger. congressman, you overlapped tim scott in the house before nikki haley appointed him. are you surprising he's endorsing trump and doing it now? >> yeah. i was shaking my head the whole time they were talking in agreement. i never expected this from tim. i know him as van said, as a decent man. somebody concerned about character. he chose to put himself and his political career above others. it was implied by stewart. maybe he even said it. nikki haley appointed tim scott to the senate. she made him a u.s. senator where he could then become a national figure and then launch his campaign for president that failed. he could have waited until after new hampshire. there is something going on in people's soul where it's like, as the bible says, what is it to gain the whole world but lose your soul? there are people just wanting to gain the world right now and donald trump has done a masterful job of convincing people they can't stand up against him so they won't. >> how much of it is, do you

players on the field or does she want to be like, i don't know, john kasich or jeff flake or adam kinzingernd pouting from the stands? now, last week, i warned that she was headed down a path that can effectively end her career inside the g.o.p. >> stomp listening to your high priced campaign consultants who are telling you what they think you want to hear. if she wants a future in the republican party, haley needs to tune out the never trumpers, not embrace them. then she needs to go to her daughters and this will be a toughy and say to them this: look, the party has moved on. it's not 2003 anymore. and we have to move on with it. >> with governor desantis and vivek ramaswamy now behind president trump and others, she has no path forward to the nomination, none. the real clear politics average gives haley only 11.5% nationwide. for home state senator tim scott endorse president trump last week. so whatever happens in new hampshire tomorrow night, president trump will be nominated this summer. other than the billionaires, who is really with haley? oh, sorry, larry hogan, maryland. asa upens

i'm joined by former republican congressman adam kinzinger, and van jones. thank you both for being here tonight. and van, there was this one line from president biden, he's in south carolina, he's attempting to rally black voters as he's been losing support with them in the state that helped really propel him to the nomination back in 2020. but he drew this direct line at one point during the speech and i want everyone to listen to this, between this history of white supremacy to what the former president is doing today. >> in our time, still the old ghost of new garments. we all need to rise to meet the moment. and the moment is now. >> i mean, van, what did you make of him essentially arguing that those who say the confederate rebellion was this noble cause, it was self-serving as biden was putting it in the same way he says trump is rewriting history by trying to falsely claim that the election was stolen? >> yeah, you know, i thought it was actually pretty powerful. it wasn't a frame i had thought of before or heard before, the lost cause. that's -- i g

and chris christie is sort of now in that rowboat with liz cheney, adam kinzinger, sort of saying wee to be, this but the vast majority of the republican party want to be this. >> this is also a very effective communication. he will be able to look at, people and to give me a break, joe biden is not pushing some far left wing policies, he's just not. when both candidates were asked tonight about the economy, about high prices, because that is what republicans love to talk about. life is so expensive. yet neither one offered an easy policy solution. nikki haley brought up the gas tax, we will get rid of the gas tax. when dana bash said, great, will be 40 billion dollars that that brings into our federal government to fix our roads, what we do there? and neither of them acknowledged. those two things voters talk about when it comes to the economy, grocery prices, gas prices. gas bases in this country are sub $3 a gallon. in iowa, there are $2.77. why? because joe biden, while his, president we are pumping more oil than any president ever. in the next two years, it will be even more. so

invited to sit on corporate boards or be a panelist at davos every year, she can go the liz cheney adam kinzingerte. both are useful idiots for the left and hated by the right. again, nothing personal, but haley is going to be humiliated in her home state of south carolina. best to avoid that just ask jeb bush. and, finally, for president trump, my advice is simple. you have run a very smart campaign. you never back down. but now the focus should almost exclusively shift to the general election. to beat biden, you're going to need 270 electoral votes. so i think a strategy of no state left behind should be your sole focus now. the numbers coming out of georgia today were stunning, very encouraging. a new atlanta journal constitution poll has trump up 8 points on biden, that is amazing. but, look, we also know the democrats are going to stop at nothing. they see this train coming down the track. and they want to derail it. and if they can, they are going to game the system or, yeah, maybe even cheat. after all they say trump is hitler so, they have to stop him. they have to. so does the rnc or do

even protagonists adam kinzinger admitted they voted for donald trump's re-election, at that point heented his grip on the party. think what we're seeing right now and what has been so telling in iowa and new hampshire, is donald trump's complete taming of the party and of the movement. consider how quickly tim scott, ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy, others turn around and endorse donald trump and say he's the person we need to lead us. consider the voters, how quickly they now take what he says as biblical. in the iowa exit poll that suggested two thirds of voters say that 2020 election was a fraud. that is a complete taming of the party and the movement. i think that's the danger. donald trump reaches for extra constitutional authority. when he argues perfect immunity in court or gets re-elected and says i don't need to abide by the constitution, the movement is now fully with him without any hesitation whatsoever. >> no one wants to be the last one to say yes to the dictator. nobody wants to be viewed as the last one. so they genuflect, humiliate themselves as tim scott and ramaswamy

. >> here tonight, cnn's senior political commentator adam kinzinger, a former congressman of illinois member of the january 6th committee. congressman, were you surprised to hear governor sununu say that? >> i guess nothing surprises me any more. i think, you know, what i was surprised about is how gleeful he was about it. like i mean it's one thing, and it would still be wrong, but it's one thing for him to say look, i don't know, yeah, i might support the republican nominee. but he was all in. of course i will. donald trump is a danger to the country. it didn't seem to faze him. i'll say what is it worth to a man that gamed the whole world but lose your soul? i understand why he said it, because to survive in the current republican party, you have to pledge of allegiance to the leader of the cult. but the gleeful aspect in which he said it is really surprising. >> he has now come on cnn since, he was with wolf blitzer earlier, he said it's a he hypothetical. it's not that far fetched of a hypothetical. he is supposed to be one of the more moderate members of your party. >> well, loo

joining me now to discuss is a former congressman adam kinzinger. i want to ask you about president biden speech, but what is going through your mind as we approach three years since the insurrection, a grim memorial that we will note tomorrow. three years, what is going through your mind? >> first off it feels like yesterday. it is a little bit of sadness or a lot of sadness, on january 7, 2021, if you would have told me that not only donald trump be running for president i would not have believed you, and that he would be the front runner i would not have believed you, and there is a good chance that he will be elected i would not have believed you. i think i am mourning the death of truth and the tribalism that is holding people this cult so strongly that they are unwilling to see what is before their eyes because that means that will lose their status as part of the tribe. that is what we have to break. that will be a fight for the next year or so. >> he is but a mortal man. to what do you attribute this? why is he able to keep this hold on not

air force vet and former republican congressman adam kinzinger about biden's options at home and abroadhen -- >> this is my first grandchild. it's supposed to be happiness, she says. but i couldn't celebrate. >> born into war. correspondent jomana karadsheh reports on the tens of thousands of new mothers and babies a

after it happened and less importantly, but much more amusingly, former republican congressman adam kinzingers donald trump smells! >> let's just start with your post, the odor, the stench, the stink. how bad is it? what do you know about that? >> yeah, i mean, it's not good. think about it. the best way to describe it. i've tried to like -- take like armpits, ketchup, like a butt, and kind of put it in a blender and makeup. and put that all in a blender, and that's -- and you bobbttle that as a cologne. that's kind of that. >> now we know why melania is always making that face. we are also getting new updates on what dame doody stench was up to - during the attack on the capitol. new information from the special souns suggested that trump somehow did even less to stop the insurrection - than the nothing we already knew he did. when he was told that mike pence had to be rushed to a secure location to get away from the maga hordes, his former aid, nick luna, trump's former investigators so what. they also heard testimony from trump's deputy chief of staff at the time, dan scavino - who said ha

in fact, those two republicans, adam kinzinger and liz cheney, were the two republicans who ended upe. >> the fact that liz cheney and adam kinzinger are the only two house republicans who believe that we should know what happened on january 6th, that people should obey subpoenas from congress, that people should provide documents when requested-- th's itself incredibly astonishing. >> narrator: they would spend a year and a half examining the evidence. tim heaphy was the chief investigator. a former u.s. attorney, heaphy led the independent review of the violence in charlottesville in 2017 and was now taking on january 6th. >> we ended up hiring, i think it was 14 or 15 former prosecutors. lawyers that have the skill set to interview witnesses, to digest a large amount of documents, and to sort of discern what's relevant, and separate that from what's not. that skill set is developed largely by trying cases, by investigating cases in federal and local prosecutors' offices. >> narrator: they conducted more than 1,000 interviews. >> the house select committee is shifting into high gea

and he is standing in for people like liz cheney who they see is an elite, people like adam kinzinger who they've thrown away. it's hard to throw him away. he's the regular guy but close the bridge. >> he said something in there that were so important to me personally because he knows donald trump. he knew donald trump. he knew what dom trump was going to be as president and he still supported him to be president. so i retain a certain strong feeling about that they don't let go of easily. but he did something. he said at least one line about why he did that and it was confessional and he said it was because of ambition. and if he didn't have that line in there, my respect for this, i would cut it significantly but, it would still be extremely effective communication to republicans. but he actually communicated to me what that first decision was about when he knew he was supporting someone who was then unfit to be president. >> much more of our special coverage ahead tonight. and i should mention, i'm gonna be speaking with steve kornacki about this dynamic that we're talking about ri

. >> he's liz cheney, adam kinzinger.k what happened to them, they were driven out of the party, lost their seats. can no longer serve in elected party. but none of them has been able to take that next step and say i now endorse the incumbent because he's not a madman. >> right. >> can chris christie do that? will he do it? >> can he do it, yes. will he do it, i don't think immediately. joe biden i worked for him for a year and a half. no question he picked up the phone and called governor christie. whether governor -- >> they have known each other. >> he's an old school politician. and christie is in some ways. did he take the call? i don't know. what i heard from the off mic, the caught mic, you know, love those moments. we all do. is he's still a little bitter, feels a little perplexed as to why he didn't do better. he may not be ready yet. right? he had a lot to get off of his chest. he knows he can have a powerful voice. and if you read between the lines of what he said tonight, i mean, he kind of criticized joe bide

forward to the day when the republican party is once again a home for people like liz cheney and adam kinzinger. but today, the republican party is in terribly ill health. and judged by that standard, our democracy is more vulnerable today than it was three years ago. three years ago we would be now two days from january 6th. and two days after those events, republican leaders were repudiating donald trump. kevin mccarthy was talking about his culpability. and you had mitch mcconnell around that time talking about there being remedies, prosecution for someone who engages in this kind of thing. here we are three years later, the republican party is trying to completely reinvent those days and what took place. they have embraced him closer than ever. he is worse than ever. they're describing both the president and republican leaders, like stefanik, those who were arrested on that day as hostages, as political prisoners. well, two days after the actual event, they were not describing those who beat officers and gouged them and bear sprayed them and had members of congress running for their lives.

joining us now, two senior political commentators, former republican congressman adam kinzinger, and david axelrod. congressman kinzinger, as you might remember, served on the january 6th committee. as a former member of that committee and someone who lived through the horrors of that day in washington, i'm wondering what your thoughts on president biden's speech was today? >> i actually thought it was pretty good. i think he's doing now what he needs to be doing, which is taking this right to donald trump, calling out his flaws. one of the things that's really struck me of late is just how hon honestly whiny, how victimy, how weak, how complainy donald trump is. i think it's important to call out. it's not taking fortuitous shots. it's because donald trump has convinced his base that he's this tough rugged american that's standing up to the smog. and the truth is donald trump is a victim in his own mind. he's whiny. and he's not running to make america great again, at least not this time. he's running to protect himself from jail. and i thought joe biden did a good job of calling th

. >> adam kinzinger, thanks very, very much. and nikki haley hitting the airwaves in new hampshire, releasing a new ad tonight that targets trump. watch this. >> the two most disliked politicians in america, trump and biden. both are consumed by chaos, negativity, and grievances of the past. >> plus, we'll take you back to iowa, where people are starting to show up for the caucuses tonight. what does it tell us about the turnout that's about to unfold? >>> and welcome back to our special coverage. the first votes of the 2024 presidential election. the iowa caucuses will get under way in just about two hours. right now the candidates are making their final pitch to voters. this is ron desantis right now on stage in cedar rapids, and late tonight after the caucuses are done, these candidates will turn their attention to new hampshire. that is where the second voting contest will take place a week from tomorrow. joining me now, new hampshire's republican governor chris sununu who has endorsed nikki haley. governor, i appreciate you

that is what set adam kinzinger off against donald trump.defense analyst position, he would have never been on the january 6 committee. host: thank you very much for your let hear from andrew in las vegas, nevada on our democratic line. go ahead, andrew. caller: thank you for taking my call. i was upset in 2016 when trump won and as we were watching the returns come in, msnbc and cnn were reporting won iowa, pennsylvania, michigan, florida, etc. not one of the people like me that was upset got angry and mad at them for reporting those results. however, in 2020, if you recall, fox news was the first ever network to call arizona for trump. the gentleman call had been with fox news for 20 years. he got fired for that because trump called rupert murdoch screaming and yelling and outraged and all these viewers were boycotting and going to newsmax. i wanted to ask your previous guest, did he think of an example of a journalist getting fired for getting his story correct and early? as we now know, arizona did go for joe biden and they fired him for

that is what set adam kinzinger off against donald trump.defense analyst position, he would have never been on the january 6 committee. host: thank you very much for your let hear from andrew in las vegas, nevada on our democratic line. go ahead, andrew. caller: thank you for taking my call. i was upset in 2016 when trump won and as we were watching the returns come in, msnbc and cnn were reporting won iowa, pennsylvania, michigan, florida, etc. not one of the people like me that was upset got angry and mad at them for reporting those results. however, in 2020, if you recall, fox news was the first ever network to call arizona for trump. the gentleman who made that call had been with fox news for 20 years. he got fired for that because trump called rupert murdoch screaming and yelling and outraged and all these viewers were boycotting and going to newsmax. i wanted to ask your previous guest, did he think of an example of a journalist getting fired for getting his story correct and early? as we now know, arizona did go for joe biden and they

. >>> joining me now is senior political comment tater adam kin kinzinger and matt lewis. i want to start with you. you just yesterday put out an ad on twitter urging independents to go to the polls in new hampshire. are there enough independents, undeclared voters to swing the state for nikki haley, opposed to donald trump's numbers look really good polling wise. >> yeah, i think there are. it's new hampshire. it has this history. john mccain won it in 2000. it likes to do things a little bit differently. so i nikki haley probably has substantial gop support there. maybe not if it was only restrictive to republicans voting she may come in under water to trump, but with the independents there, they can make a significant difference and new hampshire likes to be able to say they are more than just your typical we're stuck in only democrats or republicans. we like to do things differently. i think she's suffering a little from expectations, which is everybody is expecting she's going to win. if she doesn't win, it's going to be seen as a disappointment. it will be interestin

she's also former advisor, and former advisor adam kinzinger.the great state of new hampshire. >> going to see people go turn out in iowa. it's a different kind of set up. people in iowa have to stick around longer. you can go forward and go. make you think that nikki haley's surprising folks and may have done better than people expected. i also saw the president's speech last night. i think she is getting under his skin and you can tell by lamenting the fact that she had got on stage and made mention of it several times about how she acts like she had won and i think for nikki haley it was a win. she did better than people expected. definitely an interesting dynamic there. >> do you see a path forward for nikki haley, through south carolina and beyond? >> it's going to be hard for a continued lack of primary votes. people have not shown up to vote in the primary and especially in the republican party. the lack of enthusiasm you are seeing is concerning for me and it does hurt for someone like nikki haley we know that donald trump 'his base of s

. >> joining us with more analysis, anna navarro, cnn political commentator, adam kinz kinzinger, former biden white house communications director, kate benningfield, and former adviser to president obama, david axelrod. i know there's a lot of talk about splits between the obama and biden folks, but kate was helping axe straighten his tie during the break. i saw a unity moment. >> absolutely. >> you bring people together much like donald trump last night in iowa. >> yes, absolutely. absolutely. you know, watching you do that board and looking at the red state of iowa, it looked like a maga hat, and that was sort of emblematic of where the republican party is. the cohort, if you look at all the cross tabs, the cohort that was most striking that the president, former president trump has the most sway with are this group called republicans, and that's pretty handy -- >> deep in the cross tax. that's a handy thing to have when you're running for the party's nomination. nikki haley and the reason she is looking forward to new hampshire is she does better with independent voters, with some de

. >> because you're saying, like a liz cheney and adam kinzinger, they exist at the margins? rib conservative. she is a solid republican conservative. she was driven from the party. she was the number three republican, she was driven from the party, not because she was not sufficiently opposed to abortion rights, she's antichoice, not because she was insufficiently committed to tax cuts or whatever else the republican party stands for, she was in favor of everything the republican party stands for. the only thing she did was said that the events of january 6th was a national disgrace and that was enough to replace her with a woman, elise stefanik, not nearly as conservative, she now is, but who refers to the perpetrators of january 6th who have been convicted as hostages. >> i want to show you what new hampshire governor chris sununu, a republican who endorsed nikki haley, had to say in reaction to ronna mcdaniel. >> with all due respect to ronna mcdaniel to call it after two states, 40 states to go, the head of the republican party saying we don't want to hear from all the o

revisionists story, and 2024 will be about whether or not people can push back, and liz cheney and adam kinzingern, i hope, and we see the level of the challenge in that poll. >> you wrote the book, jonathan, "the big lie," and what you see is the sympathy among trump supporters and republicans for the people in jail right now. he's sort of recast them as hostages, and he called them the j6 hostages. many are buying that argument. the question remains it may be good for him in iowa, and it may work for him in new hampshire as he goes through the primary season, and if you look at the "washington post" poll it fits with what we have known previously, independents -- they think he bears responsibility for the january 6th attack. >> yeah, and they downplayed the violence saying it was normal and peaceful protests. certainly as we see and as trump barrels into iowa with the commanding lead, it's not hurting the republican party, but it may hurt him with independence. president biden's base knows he has a problem but they feel good about where they are among independents because independents particula