kinzinger: thanks. >> stephen: so, can i call you adam? > mr. kinzinger: you had to call me congressman for the first four years after january 6th but as of today, you can call me adam. >> stephen: okay, great. congressman, you tried really hard to stop donald trump from winning another term in office. it did not work. the american people disagreed with you. would you like to apologize to them? >> mr. kinzinger: only if you join me. >> stephen: i've got a tickle in my throat. i don't know if i'll be able to& what do you make of the fact that donald trump, as you say in that clip, he was a nonentity. he was down. generally speaking, historically, i was wrong about this too. strong man is strongman ever not stronger than strongman week and that's what i thought would happen but now strongman back. >> mr. kinzinger: he was weak and this is what the clip says, for three weeks nobody in the house g.o.p. was -- would even admit they knew donald trump. and so in this vacuum where nobody was speaking, i mean, look, him leaving andrews with nobody t

you heard adam kinzinger, people may have chuckled he slept in this morning and his phone blew up with a pardon, but he was concurring with adam schiff saying this wasn't necessary. adam schiff is concerned about the precedent. the precedent that this sets, which is against everything that joe biden says that he is doing the pardons to protect. so was this a good thing? >> i mean, you got a stigma associated with people who plead guilty or who take a plea or people who get some sort of immunity, let alone someone with a pardon, because there is a court of public opinion that will scrutinize and read into every single thing. i don't care how often the president writes into his statement surrounding the pardon to try to dissuade people from having that assumption. people have that assumption. here's the problem , in our american system, not the favorite past time is baseball, it's litigation. it's costly and time consuming. you could be exonerated as biden indicated and still have to go through the process of defend one's self with lawyers who charge every six minutes. he's thinking abou

capitol and the two republican members of the committee, former representatives liz cheney and adam kinzinger

adam kinzinger is here at the table. he was once one of them. he's with us now former republican congressman and a member of the january 6th committee, one of them. now, i will honestly say that what say you about the spectacle today, actually. honestly, it wasn't so bad. it could have been a lot worse. >> well, it's not bad compared to what we've seen over the last year or two. with all that speaker. now, had this been in real earth one, had this happen, people would be like apoplectic. this is insane. but look, i mean, the reality is it's it's a really bad start, to be honest with you. for the republican majority, this is not how you want to start, because they're going to have to do some big they're going to want to extend the tax cuts. they're going to jam everything into reconciliation. and the problem is, is when 1 or 2 people can hold a speaker vote hostage or any vote hostage, they basically have made it clear they have the power of a u.s. senator. they can basically make one demand, shut the whole process down. and the speaker then is l

brian lanza, jordan k colvin, mondaire jones, gail huff brown and adam kinzinger. americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other, but here they do. good evening. i'm abby phillip in new york. let's get right to what america is talking about. upheld tonight. donald trump is still a convicted felon. after a new york judge said his convictions were lawfully made. but for trump, he may still wear that title of criminal, but he will not suffer any of the consequences. this decision from judge juan merchan spares trump of jail time. quote a sentence of unconditional discharge appears to be the most viable solution to ensure finality and allow the defendant to pursue his appellate options in our fifth seat. tonight, attorney dante mills, he's also a professor at temple university beasley school of law. dante, is this a kind of goldilocks decision by the judge here to give people who want trump to have consequences, a conviction that is upheld but not have to deal with, you know, a sentence which, frankly, was unlikely to actually happen given that he i

cheney, adam kinzinger, all of them. they destroyed evidence and deleted everything. there's no evidence now. they are crooked politicians and they should be punished. you know, even in a civil trial, you go to jail for a thing like that. they destroyed every document from what i understand because it proved that i was totally innocent. >> will you be sending troops to the southern border still? pres. trump: the southern border? when i said 10,000 troops i was referring to the capitol. >> i see. pres. trump: i offered 10,000 troops to be capitol before january 6. >> and asked for the 1500 at the southern border, what exactly do you want them to be doing right now? pres. trump: making sure that the border is safe and secure and that criminals don't come into our country. >> are you saying sanctions on russia would make president putin negotiate? pres. trump: he should make a deal. >> does it bother you that elon musk criticized a deal you made publicly? pres. trump: he's one of the people in the deal. >> have you spoken to him since then? pres. trump: i have spoken to

. >> joining us in the fifth seat at the table, cnn senior political commentator adam kinzinger a former republican congressman who is a member of the house on january 6th and a member of the january 6th committee. just talk about kamala harris for a second there, van jones. she had the unenviable job today of certifying an election for a man that she doesn't like very much. >> well, i mean, whether she likes him or not, she could have been certifying herself. whether she loved the guy, didn't like the guy, she tried to become president of the united states. she had 100 days to do it. the ball had been dropped. she picked it up. so it's got to be -- it's got to sting, but class act. she did what she had to do. she put the country first. she did a good job. and it shouldn't be remarkable except that the guy she was certifying couldn't find themselves do it four years ago. and four years ago, we were sitting here watching this whole thing go down, watching the capitol be sacked, watching police officers be beaten up, and we thought that that was -- the question i asked then, is this the en

. >> joining us in the fifth seat at the table, adam kinzinger is a former republican congress member who was a member of the house on january 6th and a member of the january 6th committee. talk about kamala harris for second, van jones, she had the unenviable job today of certifying an election for me and she does not like very much. >> whether she likes him or not she could certify herself, she tried to become president of the united states and had 100 days to do it and the ball have been dropped and she picked it up and it has to staying. but class act. she did what she had to do and she put the country first and she did a good job and it should not be remarkable except the guys was certifying could not find himself to do it four years ago and four years ago we were sitting here watching this whole thing go down, watching the b sacked and watching police officers be beaten up and we thought that -- the question i asked and was this the end of something or the beginning of something? was this a death rattle of a politics that had been defeated and was being ushered off the stage? or

adam kinzinger one of the j-six committee members who received a pardon said on cnn i only know of one reason to seek a pardon because you are worried about being guilty. biden said in his pardon it is not implicating anyone in guilt, but when you have background statements from schiff, from liz cheney who pointed to scott perry seeking a pardon as if it was something nefarious. he denied that, of course. you have the background of hypocritical statements. this president believes in accountability but also believes in moving the country forward and it is up to him to strike that balance. that's what the american people would like is moving forward on issues and policies. >> dana: two questions. one, do these stand up in a court of law? >> yeah, one of the examples they point to is nixon. a sweeping pardon for acts that had not even been committed. it was very sweeping in its breadth. when preemptive pardons were looked to trump didn't give them. it was looked into and preemptive pardons were permissible. >> dana: it is starting to roll. a minute and a half and they will see the preside

adam kinzinger. biden also pardoned his siblings and their spouses. ooh, i know the idea being to protect them all from potential prosecution under the trump administration. sadly, joe won't remember any of these pardons tomorrow, but we will, kennedy. we will. what's interesting about this, i think especially with like somebody like fauci, it doesn't mean that they can't be publicly investigated in a hearing. and when they are questioned, there's no fifth amendment anymore because that goes away when you're immune. so this could this could end up if trump wants to. he could act like there's no pardons and go forward. >> well, these are also just for federal crimes. >> yeah. >> unlike you, i didn't go to law school. >> but you went to law school? >> no, i did not. that's what i'm saying. but i would i would like for aggressive attorneys general in conservative states to go after people like anthony fauci for lying to the citizens in their states and harming them and harming the mental health of their children. long term. because although there may not

. >> joining me now to discuss former republican congressman adam kinzinger, who, of course, served on the january 6th committee. good to have you with us. i know there is a fair amount of concern for these officers who testified against the january 6th rioters. um, there's concern about about perhaps your safety as well. where do you stand in terms of your level of concern for folks like, like like aquilino gonell? >> i mean, look, it's concerning i think what's more concerning than anything is these people are being pardoned. the vast majority of them have expressed no remorse. and as you're seeing, even with the interview of some of them that comes out, i think enrique tarrio was basically saying, no, we're going to go after we're going to have vengeance. and you typically, you know, when i think, what does speaker johnson yesterday said, we believe in forgiveness. and it's like, well, yeah, but to have forgiveness, you have to have this understanding that they did wrong. so yeah, there's some concern out there. i mean i'm not concerned. you know, look, this is what i do for a livin

with us now is adam kinzinger, cnn's senior political commentator, former republican congressman whot on the house committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. congressman, thank you for being with us during the january 6th hearings. you now famously spoke directly to some of the officers who were attacked on january 6th. this is a moment that's actually captured in a wonderful documentary you're part of called the last republican. i want to play that clip again this morning. >> you guys may like, individually. feel a little broken. you guys all talk about the effects. >> you have to deal with. >> and, you know, you talk about the. >> impact of that. >> day, but you guys won. you guys help. >> you won. you told those officers, now, now that the people who attacked them have been released, pardoned or a few of them had their sentence commuted. do you feel like that statement still holds? >> well, let me say, on the short term, these insurrectionists. got their backside handed to them by these cops. i mean, they were outnumbered 30 to 1 and they could not overrun these cops. t

she's a crying lunatic and crying, crying adam kinzinger, he's a super crying.rying. >> that overflow room included youtuber turned boxer jake paul, podcaster theo vaughn and ufc champion conor mcgregor. >> so i decided i'm not going to make this speech complicated. i'm going to make it beautiful. i'm going to make it a unifying speech. and then when they said, we have a group of people that are serious trump fans, i said, this is the time to tell those stories. >> as biden departed joint base andrews, he had one final message. >> we've always done our best as americans. we never, never, never give up. never. leaving office, but we're not leaving the fight. >> one of his final acts, preemptive pardons for officials who may face reprisals from the trump administration, including doctor anthony fauci. retired general mark milley, liz cheney and some of his own family members. there was no traditional parade, but in the evening, the president rallied thousands of supporters at the capital one arena. some of the executive orders president trump signed inside the sta

adam kinzinger isn't there anymore because he's homeless in his own party. >> cancel culture. >> mike, a prominent conservative in the house of representatives, then a governor in a midwestern state, you can disagree with his politics, but a proud christian, mainstream chamber of commerce conservative. is home in indiana today because he's homealize in his own party because of donald trump's takeover. >> more than homeless, he's not the vice president to donald trump. this time around. you know, marc, just to go back to four years ago. vice president pence would not get in the car. he's quoted in saying i'm not getting in the car. i trust you, tim. that was the head of his secret service detail, but you're not driving the car. if i get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. i'm not getting in the car. you know, we have talked about this over the years. and you have said that he didn't want the image of the detail going, but also -- >> there's the vice president- elect, by the way, jd vance. sorry. >> but in talking to secret service sources, i was told, look, he didn't want to go b

crying adam kinzinger. saw the guy not cry. >> reporter: and a third speech this evening, trump said he will be issuing pardons for january 6th defendants tonight in the oval office. also tonight marco rubio just became the first of trump's nominees to be confirmed by the senate. it was unanimous. he is now secretary of state. tomorrow on his full full day in office, trump will be meeting with congressional leaders here at the white house. the republicans at least. and then he's expected to head to north carolina and los angeles on friday to visit disaster zones. first flights on air force one in four years. >> norah: a lot still ahead. nancy cordes, thank you so much. after hours of pomp and circumstance, president trump is using his executive authority, promising major changes, especially on immigration and energy. cbs's ed o'keefe breaks down some of the orders just signed. >> reporter: by the stroke of his sharpie, president trump today ushered in new and old policy and ideas. >> could you imagine biden

some people like adam kinzinger have said they don't want one. would you like a pardon?> well, we don't need a pardon in any just world because we haven't committed any crimes. and we haven't done anything wrong, we have just done our jobs. the speech and debate clause protects us against federal criminal prosecution, state and criminal prosecution and also against civil lawsuits that would try to attack us simply for doing our jobs and fulfilling our legislative functions. so i know different people have different feelings about the whole pardon thing because there are these outrageous threats being leveled against people for doing their jobs like january 6 prosecutors at the doj. i don't know what the answer is that i am glad we have a wise president with wise people around him will be able to figure that out. >> a lot of the focus has been on members of the january 6, with respect to this retaliatory persecution and pardons, interviews with the press. are there people outside of the universe? because those are, and people at, right, and let's be honest, there will be

liz cheney, crying adam kinzinger, all of them. they destroyed evidence and deleted everything. there is nothing, no evidence now. they are crooked politicians and they should be punished. even in the civil trial, you go to jail for a thing like that. they destroyed every document, from what i understand, because it proved that i was totally innocent. reporter: you plan to send troops to the southern border? pres. trump: southern border? when i send 10,000 troops, i was referring to the capitol. reporter: oh, no, i see. i offered 10,000 troops to the capitol before january 6. reporter: to clarify, when it's -- what exactly do you want them to be doing right now? pres. trump: making sure that the border is safe and secure and that criminals don't come into our country. reporter: you say on russia will cause putin to negotiate? pres. trump: i don't know, but i think he should make a deal. reporter: does it bother you that elon musk a deal you made publicly? pres. trump: no, he hates one of the people in the dealo have you spoken to him since then? pres. trump: i have spoken to all

adam kinzinger didn't do anything wrong. mark milley didn't do anything wrong.nk about. so why do they need a pardon? and they need the pardon precisely because you have a president, as you said, who is a convicted felon who has. and that's just that's just starting with the criminal stuff. there's all sorts of other things found by the courts. he's threatened criminal prosecution over and over again. he has, in fact, we know from trump 1.0 actually taken those steps with respect to, for instance, hillary clinton. just to take one example of wanting to do that, john durham is another example of appointing someone to go after people. just spectacular failure. and so you have biden doing this, something so unusual, which is saying, you know what? i understand that our system does not have a way to deal with this kind of abuse that we are going to see, and there's enough evidence that he's going to do it, that i'm going to take him at his word because of that history, that these people shouldn't have to suffer for public service. so it's a remarkable turnaround in

capitol and the two republican members of the committee, former representatives liz cheney and adam kinzinger. he also talked about president biden's departure saying quote, i wish we could've had a better relationship. [chanting "kelly!"] >> ladies and gentlemen, we are here as witnesses to president trump's triumphant return to the white house. [cheers and applause] right now, already this morning you can feel it around the country. we certainly felt it here in the city. america is coming together and roaring back again. and it begins today as the president just told us. i know we would all rather be gathered together on the national mall which hundreds of thousands of our closest friends. but our disappointment as well overcome with our excitement for the future that we feel today. we have the chance to make the next four years the most consequential period in our nations history. as speaker of the house, it is my great pleasure, my great honor to introduce to you the man who will lead us to this new golden age. the decisive winner of the electoral college and the popular vote, the 45th an

adam kinzinger, republican, was not happy— kinzinger, republican, was not happy about it.ald trump is going to go after everybody, but getting a pardon — go after everybody, but getting a pardon makes you look like you're — a pardon makes you look like you're guilty of something. how this works, we don't know, but if you _ this works, we don't know, but if you are — this works, we don't know, but if you are pardoned, you cannot plead _ if you are pardoned, you cannot plead the — if you are pardoned, you cannot plead the fifth, so if any of the january 6 committee members are subpoenaed and hauled in front— are subpoenaed and hauled in front of— are subpoenaed and hauled in front of congress to answer questions, they will be subject into long, long amounts of testimony, but as i say, we don't — testimony, but as i say, we don't know what those details are, _ don't know what those details are, but — don't know what those details are, but it is... trump is trying— are, but it is... trump is trying to— are, but it is... trump is trying to revise what happened on january 6 and

but listen to what former republican congressman adam kinzinger said about the possibility much a pardon. he said this earlier today. >> you second you take a pardon it looks like you're guilty of something. i'm guilty of nothing, except bringing the truth to the american public. president trump sat there and showed how weak and scared he was so, no, i don't want it. >> are you tolg take a pardon if you aren't guilty of anything? >> first of all, let me be clear. we performed our al duties as directed by the united states house of representatives. we did it. we filed our report. the committee basically ended its work. now, people are dissatisfied with it, then that dissatisfaction rests. but we stand on the work of the committee. we make sure we shared that report with everybody. we retained all the information just as the law required. so, we done that part. now, if donald trump is hell-bent on extracting retribution because members of congress, staff, and to some degree, witnesses told the truth, did their work, then i think if that pardon availability was there, it should be considere

adam kinzinger one of the republicans on it said he wouldn't accept one because he didn't do anything one is alleging you did anything wrong. >> i think that's fair. >> if that comes down to it, you have two weeks from today for a decision where that could be made. >> yeah. the same answer i haven't done anything wrong january 6th committee. the work that we did. i don't think warrants a pardon because we were on the right side of history. and finding out what the former president and incoming president, what his motivation was that day. >> that is a noted non-answer but we'll follow up with you if it becomes not a hypothetical. as today played out and you talking how normal it did look and how it has always been routine, has not generated the coverage it did because of what happened four years ago and nothing can compare what happened on january 6th, 2021. i think everyone can agree with that. but given what we saw today, no democratic objections. there have been some in protest before, again, they did not compare to what republicans did on january 6th. but why was that important to

history will look at it as a moment where you see someone like liz cheney, adam kinzinger, folks getting up there as republicans and putting party behind country. looking at the images you are seeing on your screen that there was some people in congress, folks need to be held accountable and at the very least, the country needs to understand what happened here. the law of feels like a long time ago but the investigation and they presented, it started with republicans and leaning into that. i think history will decide on its own but at this point, historians think it will look kindly on the january 6 committee and those on it. >> eugene, thank you very much. >>> that does it for us. i am symone sanders townsend in for stephanie ruhle. you can catch me saturday and sunday mornings on our show the weekend. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. we will see you again tomorrow. i will see you this weekend. t. >>> tonight on all in. >> today america stands with the people of new orleans. >>> new details on the attacks in new orleans and las v

adam kinzinger, he should be concerned. let's not forget there were a lot of republicans out there campaigning vigorously against donald trump in the last cycle. i would take this very very seriously. >> you know, something that has happened as you watch some democrats and people in the political opposition figure out what their posture is this time around. the idea that, we ran on the january 6 thing and the preservation of democracy and it did not work. what are you going to do? let's just not talk about it again. i think it's a mistake politically and substantively, but what do you think? >> yeah, i feel it's completely out of touch with reality. i don't know how the call from calling the guy fascism and his threats to democracy and the crazy things he has said and the violence and political violence that has been behind a lot of the rhetoric that he has spoken, his allies have spoken, and the election happens and it's like, never mind. we were just kidding about that. we will talk to him and allow him to be president. d

they are about giving liz cheney and adam kinzinger, you know, medals of honor, whatever metals theyed trump. it is about hate and i am done with them. >> sandra: greg, do your frequent visits have to do with your mug change? >> greg: didn't ask to touch my mug. >> sandra: up next, a new era in the briefing room. press secretary karoline leavitt takes on the media. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: karoline leavitt making her debut -- the tea is silent. trumps white house press secretary and warning reporters. >> we welcome independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers, and content creators to apply for credentials to cover this white house. we know for a fact there have been lies that have been pushed by many legacy media outlets in this country about this president, about his family, and we will not accept that. we will call you out when we feel that your reporting is wrong or there is misinformation about this white house, so yes, i will hold myself to the truth, and i expect everyone in this room to do the same. >> greg: sandra, in the green world, you were telling me this girl di

she is crying lunatic and crying adam kinzinger. he is a super crier. crying. talk about inflation too but how many times can you say that an apple has doubled in price? you get into a stagecoach, now you get into a helicopter. 60, 70 pounds and they go as fast as you can walk. i would attack a karate champion, get slightly -- i think this was a better speech than the one i made upstairs. okay? okay? i thought this was better, j.d. ♪ it seems today ♪ ♪ that all you see ♪ ♪ is violence in movies and sex on tv ♪ ♪ but where are those good old-fashioned values ♪ ♪ on which we used to rely? ♪ ♪ lucky there's a family guy ♪ ♪ lucky there's a man who positively can do ♪ ♪ all the things that make us ♪ ♪ laugh and cry ♪ ♪ he's... a... fam... ily... guy ♪ hi there. it's me, peter. you know, when it comes to making dreams come alive, there used to be nothing like the movies. so we thought it would be fun to ask a few visionary hollywood directors to create his-- let's be honest, his-- own unique version of the same family guy story, "peter gets fired." of the co

kind of hard to believe or remember this far back but paul ryan was speaker of the house and adam kinzinger was still considered representative of mainstream republicanism and liz chaney was a member of the republican house leadership. though trump came in with a republican senate and republican house, he really didn't have a lot of allies to put his agenda through. this time mike johnson is speaker of the house and was the result of a struggle that took place before his win over how much influence maga was going to have in congressional leadership. mitch mcconnell is no longer the leader of the senate. there's been so much turnover over the past eight years the question of how is a republican party going to deal with maga. and are we going to return to a mitt romney, john mccain type of republican that was dominant so many years and return to a tea party era or is trumpism the future? no one is canning that question anymore. now we know trump is the future of the g.o.p. he's not going to have to contend in the second trump administration with members of congress out to deinstruct his agend

along with former republican congressman adam kinzinger, who served on the january 6th committee.yan, just to start with these pardons, you've looked extensively at these january 6th defendants. you've gone through every single one with extensive analysis on just security. enrique tarrio specifically, when you look at pardons, do you think trump will help him? >> i think he's probably one of the last in line. and he serves the 22- year sentence because it's the longest sentence that's been given because of how responsible he is for the attack on the capitol. he's not just under the category that lindsey graham identified as somebody who's responsible for assaults on law enforcement officers that day who might have been caught up in the mayhem it was a conspiracy that was premeditated. the government has their encrypted messages where they're planning to overwhelm the police defenses through the use of violence and then during that afternoon when we all saw what we saw on the television screens he actually sends an encrypted message to his proud boys at 2:39 p.m. that says "make no

adam kinzinger showed great courage and the witnesses that came before the committee were so powerfulthat put the country first. so who knows what the president means? i guess we'll find out, but we stand behind our work. >> there's been a lot talk about whether president biden should issue preemptive pardons to those who served on the committee. you have been very public about saying you don't want a preemptive pardon. i wonder, senator, have you conveyed that directly to the president himself, to his administration? >> not directly to the president, but i have conveyed it to the administration and the concern that i have which is what i conveyed side the precedent that it would set that you have an outgoing president giving a broad group of pardons to members of his party or others because i think the precedent could be abused. people have pointed out, donald trump may abuse that precedent regardless, but the idea that each administration hereafter gives broad pardons to the people who worked with the administration or aligned with the administration, i don't think that's a road we

exponentially more in the preemptive pardons raise a lot of questions some of these people like adam kinzingerdon't want it but they take it today as the january 6 committee is one of the list as you mentioned but it does bring questions about his use of this at the end not only for his son but the preemptive pardons that is a blanket that covers them no matter whatever happened. stuart: were just seen speaker johnson arriving. it's a political elite the cultural delete and technology will elite on the left-hand side of the screen waiting for the swearing-in ceremony. bret baier, thank you a for joining us requited a. we will see you later. it is history it's great to sit back and watch it, real privilege to sit back in my seat and watch history unfold and i think the same as for you. trump is a busy week he said to me without and senate and then descended to los angeles to survey the fire damage. it is friday in los angeles. >> will likely be the first official trip outside of d.c. as president of the united states, he said i intended to go already but i thought about it let me wait a few day

that is three more than adam kinzinger. the guy hasn't slept in two days. thing is, it's amazing, it's possible -- it is possible donald trump could complete his presidency in three months and then he could just say, you know what? j.d., you take it from here. i think i did everything i could do. it's incredible. by the way, you said it was a good thing, the fact that these people have to go to work, but then you mention all the challenges they have. well, welcome to america. every single one of us has a challenge, but yet we come to work. i'm not going to pay for their porn addiction. nt to sit home in front of pornhub and say they have chronic fatigue syndrome, everyone in america could stay home because they have a sick lead i or baby. but they're not. the coming to work. they should go. i'm glad they got rid of appointees. i need work around the house. i pay well. i'm not done. i've got to bring up the nazi hoax thing. we all know this is b.s., and yet the media is redefining losing every single day, day one. they say elon musk made a nazi salute, and i

adam kinzinger also i think as a republican showed great courage, and the witnesses who came before themittee were so powerful because they were republicans, because they put their country first. so who know what's the president means. i guess we'll find out. but we stand behindous work. >> there has been a lot of talk about whether president biden should issue preemptive pardons to those who served on the committee. you've been very public about saying you don't want a preemptive pardon. i wonder, senator, have you conveyed that directly to the president himself, to his administration? >> not to the president, but i have conveyed to it the administration. and the concern i have, which is what i conveyed is the precedent that it would set, that you have an outgoing president giving a broad group of pardons to members of his party or others, because i think the precedent could be abused. now people have rightly pointed out donald trump may have abused that precedent regardless. but the idea that each administration here after gives broad pardons to people who worked in the administration

she's a crying lunatic and crying, crying adam kinzinger, he's a super crying. i never saw the guy not crying. he's always crying. i looked at him. i remember years ago he was actually on my side. and then one day, you know, when you don't want to kill people in wars, they turn against you. >> andrew, i thought it was a very revealing just off from the heart, off the top of his head. what was your reaction when you heard about the way in which he's talking about former elected members of congress, people who i think probably rightfully president biden zeroed in on as particularly vulnerable during a second trump administration. >> well, one thing that i think it's important for all of us to do when we have these kinds of statements by the now president, is to really focus and separate adjectives and adverbs and sort of smears from actual facts to say somebody cried. so what to say? somebody is a disaster. >> so what? what are the facts? >> the only facts it's not in the clip we played is the president saying that the january 6th committee destroyed documents. >>

trying adam kinzinger, he's a super crying. i never saw the guy not crying. my life was saved for a reason. i was saved by god to make america great again 2020. by the way, that election was totally rigged. but these are the. that's okay for american citizens. january 20th, 2025 is liberation day, and i think this was a better speech than the one i made upstairs. >> okay, first speech, second speech. donald trump now has the first member of his cabinet also in place. the senate unanimously confirmed marco rubio as secretary of state, the nomination of pete hegseth as defense secretary was approved by committee, and that's now headed to a full senate vote. with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel on this very important night. symone sanders townsend joins us, co-host of the msnbc morning show the weekend. she's also the former chief spokesperson for vice president harris. susan glasser is here. staff writer for the new yorker. barbara mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. and isaac rosendorff, n

you've heard adam kinzinger say that.and therefore he doesn't follow through on it. it may be that he doesn't want to suggest that something wrong was done by all the various people he's he's considering. so it is a pretty bold and unprecedented move in some ways. if he were to do this, and it's not his nature, i think, to necessarily push that boundary. but i wouldn't rule it out. but i yeah, i wouldn't necessarily expect it either. okay. >> okay. so you guys are syncing up on that. president biden has gotten some pushback, though, for saying that he could have beaten trump in 2024 had he stayed in the race. some are seeing this as a slight to vice president harris and her loss. yesterday, he clarified his remarks, saying he thinks both of them could have won, though obviously she didn't. megan, how did you interpret that comment? >> look, i think that the president stands on the that he is the only person that has successfully beat donald trump. so i think that he stands there. but i also think these are this is kind of

trump critic and former congressman adam kinzinger writing, i have no idea what the democrats are doingto fight back or even saying crickets. and the headlines sum it up like this. trump leaves democrats dazed and on the defensive. democrats grapple with their own message, and trump 2.0. democrats seek psychologists advice on trump's authoritarian behavior. and on that last point, the one about how democrats keep ringing the authoritarian bell. well, jon stewart had some advice on that one. >> look, i really hope that democrats figure out a way to contain this guy. the question is probably not. how dare he, though? the question should be, what are you learning from this? how would you use this power? what's your contract with america? democrats exist outside of him. tell people what you would do with the power that trump is wielding, and then convince us to give that power to you as soon as possible. that's the goal. it's enough with the he's the hitler. he's the thing. stop doing it. that's terrible. what would you do? >> lucky for us, because we have the perfect person to help answer

adam kinzinger, all of them. they destroyed evidence and deleted everything. there's nothing. there's no evidence now. they're crooked politicians and they should be punished. you know, if that's even in a civil trial, you go to jail for a thing like that. they destroyed every document. from what i understand, every document, because it proved that i was totally innocent. >> mr. president, to send up to 10,000 troops to the southern border. yeah. >> our southern border. >> yes. >> when you say southern border, when i say 10,000 troops, i was referring to the capital. >> oh i see. >> and know i was referring to. >> when do. >> you plan? >> i offered. >> 10,000 troops for the capital before january 6th. >> and as for the 1500 at the southern border, sir, to clarify, what exactly do you want them to be doing right now? >> making sure that the border is safe and secure and that criminals don't come into our country. >> mr. president. >> do you think. >> that sanctions. >> on russia will force president putin to negotiate? >> i don't know, but i think he should make a deal. >> mr.

all those people, they put all their eggs on liz cheney and adam kinzinger, including cnn doing that.he jan six commission, 5%. >> but the way they reacted as if they had been asked the question of like, did you think january 6th was awesome? >> and then like 95% of people said, yes. yeah. which is that people are like, yeah, i don't really think about it that much anymore, which i think is like a normal and healthy at this point. yeah. which again, but the weirdest thing is that sunny, it's like she's, she's i feel like people say like stuff like that all the time. yeah. and it's you should be more shocked hearing something like that at this point of things being compared to the holocaust and things being compared to hitler. but it's like, oh, here's another one. i'm sure people will do it again next year. yeah. >> she's like one of those japanese soldiers on a deserted on an island who doesn't know the war is over. yeah. you know, and she's still saying the same old crap. >> well, all of her points, she said it was the worst day in america. none of those things happened in america.

adam kinzinger, all of them. they destroyed evidence and deleted everything. there's nothing.dence now. they're crooked politicians and they should be punished. you know, if that's even in a civil trial, you go to jail for a thing like that. they destroyed every document. from what i understand, every document, because it proved that i was totally innocent. >> mr. president, to send up to. >> 10,000 troops to the southern border. >> yeah. >> a southern border. >> yes. >> when you say southern border, when i say 10,000 troops, i was referring to the capital. >> oh i see. >> and. >> when do you plan? i offered 10,000 troops to the capital before january. >> okay, so donald trump is sending a number of executive orders there, including one that could be quite interesting regarding the declassification of files on the assassinations of jfk, rfk, and mlk. we'll wait to see what comes out of that. he was also asked about the pardoning of those 1500 january 6th rioters, including some very violent ones who attacked police officers viciously and were convicted by by juries of their pe

people like senator adam schiff, people like former congressman adam kinzinger. they said, no, we don't want these pardons because it would imply that we did something wrong. but there are others, i think, who do want them and who are concerned that a trump administration will follow through on his campaign threats and make their lives miserable. they don't have to actually result in a conviction in order to make somebody's life pretty miserable. with an investigation that costs tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal bills and makes your career, you know, upended. yeah, 100%. >> all right, peter baker, don't leave your career because we need you next weekend. thank you very much, my friend. good to see you. what does the term siberian express mean to you? probably not a lot, but this weekend many of us may feel it. plus sign of the times. a live report from the people's march happening right now. that's happening right now. that's next. ♪febreze!♪ have you tried these febreze car vent clips? the intensity dial gives you total control. i can turn i

so she kicked jim jordan and jim banks off and put liz cheney and adam kinzinger on there, who would just go along with all the fake propaganda that the democrat national committee and their friends in the left wing media were spouting out. >> all right, congressman, i'm going to ask all three of you. so we're going to start with congressman jackson. he gets to go first. again, you're about 15 hours away from a speaker vote. how are you going to vote on that speaker vote? and i mean by my count, there's like five house members who aren't going to vote for speaker johnson. and that's going to put you short of coming up with a majority. so foreshadow what's going to happen. and how specifically do you plan to vote, at least on the first round on speaker johnson because that's just 15 hours away. >> well, i'm absolutely, positively voting for speaker mike johnson. he's done a good job under the circumstances. we need to get this. we need to move the ball right now. president trump has stepped out and said, let's put mike back in the speaker's role so we can move on with the make america

these people that were appointed all democrats plus two worse than democrats, that's crying, adam kinzinger and liz cheney, who lost her congressional seat by more than any person in the history of congress. she lost by a number that nobody has ever lost by. you know why? because usually when you have a poll and you're down by like 40 or 50 points, you're smart enough to drop out, she should have dropped out. at least she wouldn't have that moniker. >> before i go to the economy and foreign policy, let me. as long as you brought up this topic, joe biden, chuck schumer, adam schiff, who got a preemptive pardon, all these people that got pardoned, anthony fauci, did he know that nih money through the ecohealth alliance was funding the wuhan virology lab? there seems to be texts and messages and emails that went back and forth. the you talk about the unselect committee, as you call it, the january 6th committee. they had a predetermined outcome. general milley, all these people, the biden family members, joe biden ran and said he would never do preemptive pardons. it was an issue that came up

director andrew mccabe and former republican congressman and january 6th select committee member adam kinzinger. donny, what are you hearing from some of these? the most notorious people who are granted clemency? >> yeah, i mean, just spending the last few days in washington, d.c. quite surreal to see oath keepers and members of the proud boys proudly walking around the capitol, even through the halls of congress tonight. and speaking of the proud boys, the leader of the group there, as you mentioned, was speaking to alex jones yesterday. and i want to play a little bit more of what he said. have a listen. >> now it's our turn. i'm happy that the president is focusing not on retribution and focusing on success, but i will tell you that i'm not going to play by those rules. the people who did this, they need to feel the heat. they need to be put behind bars, and they need to be prosecuted. we should put merrick garland, at the very least for 90 days in federal prison and give him a taste of his own medicine. of what he put us through. so i'm calling for the incarceration of merrick garland so, s