we have to, liz cheney and adam kissinger. they are on this committee.s ostracized in their own party. there is a poll that came out yesterday. it shows that liz cheney is trailing her trump backed challenger by more than 20 points. the question for you, ruth, we have to recognize the traditional republican party as we once knew it, it is basically being relegated to third-party status. they can either stay within their own tent or form their own political institution. >> yes. i agree with that. really, that is why i say that we are going to have to have a new terminology for the gop. it doesn't resemble its old self. indeed, one of the biggest metrics of that is that anybody who wants to get ahead in their party now has to be more and more radical. think about mehmet oz. he used to be for done reform. in his campaign ad, he had to be shooting and saying that the second amendment is about opposing chronicle government. there's even rhonda scientists. in november 2020, he said that florida has no fraud. they were still anchored to a democratic culture wit

ali, congressman adam kissinger says, more witnesses have come forward. >> yeah, cory. quite a few january six committee members on the sunday show this morning, really making a splash of news this holiday weekend. one of, them republican congressman adam kissinger saying that since haugen soft money on tuesday, no witnesses have come forward, quote, every day. listen here. >> it happens every day. every, day we get new people that come forward and say, hey, i didn't think maybe this piece of the full story that only was important, but now that you guys are -- like, i do see this place in here. but yeah, i mean, look, she is going to go down in history as -- i mean, people can forget the names of every one of us on that committee. they will not forget her name. >> of course, hutchins that has come under fire sensitive testimony on tuesday, with several anonymous secret service agents coming forward and disputing part of her testimony. congressman kinzinger really defending her testimony, calling this essentially expected and normal for these former members of trump brou

where is liz cheney and adam kissinger now? >> katie: lighten up, it is a game for charity.ding tradition in d.c. and one time people come together and have fun. >> joey: that is the point we take from this, all those opportunities are gone for people to get along. d.c. is failing us in our pocketbooks and filling us with their sports, i guess, too. and i can say the nationals are certainly. maybe they are just made form losing, moving on, stay right here. there is lottery fever and it has struck millions of americans trying to win back the billion. that is up next. ♪ ♪ i typed in grandma's name and birth year... and there she was, working at the five and dime. my dad's been wondering about his childhood address for 70 years... and i found it in five minutes. ...that little leaf helped me learn all the names from the old neighborhood... it felt like a treasure hunt. the 1950 census adds vivid new detail to your family story. and it's available now on ancestry. ♪ ♪ >> harold: welcome back. time for "the fastest." first up will smith offering up his first on camera policy to c

matter is we have seen now for five years, with very huge exceptions, of course, liz cheney, adam kissingernd others. the republican party as it currently stands today is a party of cowards, full of the cowardice that comes with fearing the cult leader of the bully in this case in donald trump. and frankly, i don't even believe that if the justice department does finally indict trump and lead him away in handcuffs, that that will break the spell. what i do think, however, will cause republicans to formerly break with trump is when the polls start moving, as we are starting to see the move now. for the first time you now see a legitimate contender to trumps title as the grand kuba of the maga party , with ron desantis now, matching him almost within single digits. when you start to see that type of movement, or trump no longer is the titular home ocular leader of the party who can in essence and a campaign or an officeholder with an endorsement or a social tweet, i don't think you're going to start to see that movement happen, katie >> reporter:, to push every second, though, because you don

in a year and a half since i was injured, they know my injuries, only adam kissinger and liz cheney haveched me. i'm not saying that i need that from them, but that shows a lot from the people who claim that they support the police. that are pro-law and order. >> lots to talk about. journey me, ellie. mary mccord served in the justice department. clint watts worked as a consultant for the anti- terrorism division. he's at the foreign policy resurgence and nbc analyst. i want to start with the phone call. we don't know who the president called. just support staff. how broad of a category is that, and how much access can a person like that have to have heard or seen something that the midi thinks would be critical to their investigation? >> when you consider the way the committee put this out, it's right it the end of their hearing. what we expect to be the final hearing on prime time, next thursday. they will be focused on the minute by minute accounting of january 6th, sl. the minutes that the capitol was under attack and what was happening in the white house. it is very likely that this

adam kissinger says there's discussion about whether to seek a written interview, a subpoena for him. betty thompson, the chairman of the committee indicated to reporters that thursday would be a day this issue would be discussed and jake, also, what will they do to get the former president himself to testify. almost certainly he would fight that if there is a subpoena to him. is the committee willing to go that far and drag things out or move on without his testimony? those are the key questions as they move into next week. the last hearing in this phase before they finalize the report language they hope to issue later this fall. >> manu, tell us about the group of senators working on a deal to overhaul the electoral count act. the first official legislative response to donald trump's attempt to overturn the legal and legitimate win. >> reporter: this is the law that governs how that happens on the day of congressional certification when donald trump tried to pressure mike pence to disregard state certified electoral results. something that constitutional experts would be illegal but

where we are now, would you have expect to to see more republicans joining you and liz cheney and adam kissingertainly think there is a growing number of republicans. is painful to watch. as part of the healing process for republicans. i think it's also a big time for change in america. the new york times on monday, over two thirds of democrats do not want joe biden to run again. the last two presidents in our country are now going to be not at the top of the ticket. i don't think we actually see them run again as president. the democrats will wise up and find some more more competent. the republicans will wake up and find someone more focused on solving problems, instead of the ego. hopefully that will be better for america. >> we will see. i also found it frustrating, this is interesting, and perhaps one of you can respond to this? democrats are so happy with liz cheney and adam, and the moment they say something conservative, liz cheney supported the law for banning abortion. democrats got mad at her. you can't expect her to all of a sudden become a democrat. republicans are going to be repub

adam kissinger says there's discussion about whether to seek a written interview, a subpoena for him.the committee indicated to reporters that thursday would be a day this issue would be discussed and jake, also, what will they do to get the former president himself to testify. almost certainly he would fight that if there is a subpoena to him. is the committee willing to go that far and drag things out or move on without his testimony? those are the key questions as they move into next week. the last hearing in this phase before they finalize the report language they hope to issue later this fall. >> manu, tell us about the group of senators working on a deal

the perceptions of a partisan -- up until a few months ago, liz cheney is not really of rhino, adam kissinger these are republicans who are testifying. that doesn't matter you think? >> i don't dispute any of that, i think some of the testimony we heard is very compelling. we're watching these folks come up there and say their piece, i don't think they're telling the truth. i think it doesn't matter, i think that again, they're waiting, they're looking at the current economics, the circumstances in their live, the previous segments today said, look how bad america's feeling by the economy, by the future of our country, all these things. they weigh that against this guy donald trump, he may have done something's wrong, i know he's not perfect. my 401k was better, i can fix my washing 19. i think that's how people live in the real world. there are a great deal of people that are concerned about what happened on january six, i don't think they make the connection directly that there is a nexus between donald trump saying, do this and people breaking through the windows of the capital. >> so, tal

i know they are named as republicans in name only, congressman liz cheney and congressman adam kissinger. you see this committee as a democratic committee and partisan one, or more of a bipartisan effort to uncover the truth? >> i don't describe it as bipartisan or partisan. it is anti trump, it just is, regardless of whether or not the people there are democrats or republicans. there is nobody defending the president from the podium. there is nobody defending the president in the interview room. there is nobody defending the president when they give testimony. that is when i say -- i very much which that -- had seated the republicans that kevin mccarthy had asked for. i i think it would have, in a roundabout way, it would've accomplished more of what pelosi wanted to accomplish here, which more people would have watched these hearings if jim jordan was on this committee. people needed to see some of the testimony about how trump really lost the testimony in 2020, but because of the way it shook out, nancy pelosi rejecting some of kevin mccarthy's requested republicans, that it turned of

even january six committee member adam kissinger is frustrated with how slow we are seeing indictments from the doj. the attorney general merrick garland, in your opinion, working on something now. if so, what is taking so long? >> the facts that i have rely on is that there have been seizures of electronic devices from clark and eastman. there have been subpoenas to fake elector. i think that they are definitely on the case now and they are asking for all of the evidence that the committee has, hopefully they will get that. that would speed up the possible indictments. ever since watergate, charles, i have believed that the constitution allows -- when there is sufficient evidence, the indictment of even a sitting in president. certainly it allows the indictment of a former president. he is not above the law. there is no interference with his, with him conducting his job as presidents if he is indicted. he is not the president, he is an ordinary citizen. he is continuing to commit, but i would consider, offenses. if he isn't stopped it will continue. we must take action. i think not do

i am pulling up the profile that ran in "the washington post" about adam kissinger and they said he was considered a star in the conservative party. he was one of the favorites of kevin mccarthy. he said now that he served on the committee investigating former president trump's role in inciting the capitol riot, he is no longer the baby faced 32-year-old whose future seems limitless. forced into retirement this year he reserves his anger for people like mccarthy and other leaders who keep falling in line with the ex-president they privately, and sometimes publicly, condemned. he is one of two republicans on the january 6 committee. back to the phone lines in decatur, georgia. you will have to tell me your name. i think it is gar? caller: gar, g-a-r. i called trump the derek chauvin of politics. we saw derek chauvin kyl george floyd and some people say it is all right. you are going to have people say, it did not happen. what we have in america today is some people want a dictator leadership. biden is no dictator. he could not be a dictator if he wanted to be, but americans want a dictat

the ground when -- mike pence saved our democracy, but for him to run as a president -- i see adam kissinger, liz cheney, paul ryan. on the left, they need to get back to save the republican party. i changed to independent last month. i could not take it anymore. i voted for trump and 2016. i cried the whole four years. when he left, i kissed the ground again. 7:34 a.m., january 7, when -- when they banned him, i said, thank you. only 25% now. they will not change their mind. they are going to speak. it was their holiday, their victory. they needed a big leader. they wanted to do this. they use each other so the only thing i want to say is we are going to be fine. i am going to get back to being a republican again. after all of this. we will go next -- host: we will go next to the republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. mike pence might have had some role in the gop, but i do not believe he can go against trump in a primary. i do not think he would win. during his name in would take votes from governor desantis. when you look at the election results from -- he got 70 million v

i am pulling up the profile that ran in "the washington post" about adam kissinger and they said he was considered a star in the conservative party. he was one of the favorites of kevin mccarthy. he said now that he served on the committee investigating former president trump's role in inciting the capitol riot, he is no longer the baby faced 32-year-old whose future seems limitless. forced into retirement this year he reserves his anger for people like mccarthy and other leaders who keep falling in line with the ex-president they privately, and sometimes publicly, condemned. he is one of two republicans on the january 6 committee. back to the phone lines in decatur, georgia. you will have to tell me your name. i think it is gar? caller: gar, g-a-r. i called trump the derek chauvin of politics. we saw derek chauvin kyl george floyd and some people say it is all right. you are going to have people say, it did not happen. what we have in america today is some people want a dictator leadership. biden is no dictator. he could not be a dictator if he wanted to be, but americans want a dictat

liz cheney, adam kissinger and representative luria so it redeemed my faith in the legislative processo critical to the safety and security of this country. secondly i was somewhat depressed during the course of the hearings i recall judge ludwig saying that president trump presents a clear and present danger. i believe that to be the case. i believed it before he took office and in office and even more after listening to the testimony. here's the commander in chief whose duty it is to protect and defend and took time out and reminded of the gap in the taped conversation that president nixon had. was on the 18:30 gap? some said an evil force deleted them. we found out that richard nixon and rosemarie wood deleted those 18:30. we found out what they basically were trying to do at that time. here we have a such ways equivalent of me say the troops in syria under attack. mr. secretary, what should we do? i'm having lunch and talking to the estate planner and there are russians and friends of the president. what would that mean for me? i would be unfit to serve as secretary of defense. the