>> that's a good point and adam lashinsky, hard getting back to the convicts, they're already in jailadam, what do you think of it? >> because, he neil, because to execute ben's suggestion, charles would almost certainly oppose funding the prosecutors to go after that money. he would say, no more government spending, i mean, come on. and ben is exactly right, big organizations have waste, it's not good. >> with all due respect, don't compare this to a company. don't compare this to a company, come on. >> you can compare it to a company. >> the taxpayers dollars, our dollars. >> the organizations, i guarantee-- i'm not saying they're perfect because i use today work there. ge did an is a much better run organization than the federal government, i will guarantee that. >> i don't know about that. >> i really don't know about that. >> and i believe that ge-- >> and now what? >> i will tell you this, this is the reason why, why every time ben says we need to raise taxes my head almost explodes because of this stuff. think about it, we have so much of this and we're talking entertaining the

let's he get to it ben stein, charles payne, dagen mcdowell and rounding out our contestant, adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. what do you knowing. >> evergreen solar costs massachusetts and this solyndra, 535 billion. >> million, rather, and last week, 15 more of the projects trying to ram through before september 30th deadline and this is scary stuff. i mean, not only are they wasting taxpayer money, but smells like political chaos and this stinks so bad, i can't believe that they're still rushing to push more through. >> neil: dagen, the reference to the dash for cash at the grocery store game show, you only have a set time before the end of the month, in the envelope department to use the 10 billion dollars on hand for whatever purpose or it goes away. so, the administration committed billions more t green initiatives, that might have the same same-- >> at least four companies have gotten money from the government since solyndra filed for bankruptcy and you have more than a dozen lined up just by the end of this month. and get more cash, but the problem is, something interesting tha