ben stein, charles payne, dagen mcdowell along with adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. all right, charles payne, i've seen this before, on steroids or in 3-d. >> the vice-president. united states suggesting that republicans are responsible or would be responsible for rape? which by the way is not an economic crime, but somehow they're encouraging more rape of women and then they're going to fourth grade school and talk to these kids? i remember when president obama or senator obama was running for office, he says that wives and kids are off limits. not if you use women in the idea at that they can be raped to push through a jobs bill? this is despicable stuff. >> neil: dagen, and trying to understand the meanings of the remarks, i think he's saying we have increased joblessness and more likely we'll be with these maladies and even that's a stretch, isn't it? >> it's absolutely a stretch. can we say what it is? it's crazy, it's crazy talk, but now what, these stair tactics work. >> i think when you yell it-- >> that's crazy, i was laughing. >> listening to you. >> it's b

. >> to ben stein, dagen mcdowell, adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino, is that the right play book? >> closing loopholes and lowering the marginal tax rates is the right economic play book. i'm shaken, kind of like the richard simmons video, barack obama comparing himself to ronald reagan is really an amazing, let's not call it a lie, but a massive stretch of the truth. >> here is the thing though the stakes are big, dagen and the idea is it's okay to go this route because the reagan did it, but we know that reagan didn't do that. we know that reagan was a tax cutter that taxes went down and a few times where taxes went up, but overall the philosophy less taxes and less government intervention and we had a pretty good economy after that. >> president obama wants to get rid of some loopholes for people and groups he does not care for and raise tax rates and that is not tax reform. tax reform is, yes, cutting loopholes and that means that, that means closing them. that means getting rid of tax expenditures and that's going to mean people give up some things they like, even the mortgag

and adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. my thanks to charles payne last week, he did such a good job i kicked him off the show this week. and job security. >> some say payne on business. and matt mccall, what do you think of all of this. and to paulson, with an it a threat. >> it's a threat and it's serious about it and he's not the only one. if you think of it in simple math terms. if the taxes remain high, new york obviously the highest in the country and one of the highest in the world compared to other countries and what's the country trying to do, a bank or any other large corporation. trying to make the bottom line as high as it can be. and the factor that lowers the bottom line. if i can change that, the ceo of the company. i'm going to a state. to increase the share price which is what we tried to do. in the end. what ner hthey're doing, they w to get jobs for middle class, but they're pushing the 99% are hurt the most because when paulson moves his company there's a large of portion of administrates in the company