to ben stein, melissa francis, along with adam lashisty. what do you make of this? >> i talked about this a long time. i've been blasted on comedy central for being heartless. the fact of the matter is i've seen it in my own

to ben stein, melissa francis, along with adam lashisty. what do you make of this? >> i talked about this a long time. i've been blasted on comedy central for being heartless. the fact of the matter is i've seen it in my own eyes. >> they figured out what we already know about you. >> john, go ahead. you were saying. >> the bottom line is it's just, listen, we should be making it where people are urged to get off welfare instead the idea of making it comfort for theab com. it's not the one where they pay for the house, food, rent, cell phone and sit at home and make a lot more money than people doing minimum wage jobs. it crushed the economy. >> it's tough to leave that. even if it isn't exactly the same, you have childcare issues. it doesn't have to be. it's daunting. >> in new york, especially. you receive the benefits, of course, you're not getting taxed. in new york, you have to make $21 an hour in order to take home the same amount of money as if you were on all these programs. and then i mean because they're talking about a single mom with two kids, you also h

to ben stein, melissa francis, along with adam lashisty. charles, what do you make of this? about this a long

to ben stein, melissa francis, along with adam lashisty. charles, what do you make of this? >> i talked about this a long time. i've been blasted on comedy central for being heartless. the fact of the matter is i've seen it in my own eyes. >> medal of honor, wow. >> they figured out what we already know about you. >> all right. >> john, go ahead. you were saying. >> the bottom line is it's just, listen, we should be making it where people are urged to get off welfare instead the idea of making it comfortable. i've always said they made poverty comfortable enough not to get off of it. it's not the one where they pay for the house, food, rent, cell phone and sit at home and make a lot more money than people doing minimum wage jobs. it's simple math and it crushed generations of people. crushed them. >> it does make it tough to leave that because even if it isn't exactly the same, child care issues, it doesn't have to be. it's daunting. >> in new york, especially. you receive the benefits, of course, you're not getting taxed. in new york, you have to make $21 an hour in order t