yet adam liptak was able to into justice ginsburg a couple weeks ago -- >> so has everyone in america at this point. justice ginsburg has a message. she will take him or. she will come to your house if you're going to have a garden party. she will be there. she is not leaving. okay quick she wants everyone to know if she's staying on the supreme court so she's been doing interviews like mad to get that point of view out. >> why aren't there more interviews like this? >> it -- >> go ahead, tony. >> it's because they don't have a message like that to get out. if they did they would. there are some justices who know if they stick their neck out and are interviewed they're going to get some questions that they don't really want to answer. that's another factor. i was able to once interview justice alito because i knew he's a philadelphia phillies fan. and the phillies had just one -- they hadn't won the world series but they had done well so i said that i interview justice alito about the phillies. and the public information officer said, he won't want to talk about it. the next thing i k