francine, your with adam pozen.am. , we doetable or a time not even have a plan to deal with brussels. looking at the nuances. whether angela merkel really once the u.k. out. >> francine, again, chancellor merkel is always doing the best to have a long-term view, be the a donald the room. i give for credit. for me, timetable specifically, how much is under people's control? there are people who keep saying the europeans have to understand. it will maybe take to october. the fact is, this is a huge externality of uncertainty on europe. a huge uncertainty disrupting their agenda and politics. about, ohp talking well, the britons do not want to be bullied. well, the europeans do not want to be bullied either. i am not saying it is not fast, i am just not saying it is not sustainable as is. you need to be clear about the process in saying at some point when the u.k. is ready, we will pull the article 50 a court. i think that is wrong. i think we have to be feeling -- thinking about calling a general election in the u.k.

tom: adam, thank you so much. dr. pozen at the peterson institute in washington. nt to pick up on something that adam said and pose a question. there are two scenarios. one, the european union disintegrates and we will have more referendums. or that this shocks the eu into a better run eu. guest: i do not think it is quite as binary, i think that the eu has a choice. i think there will be a learning affect from the way that populism played out in the u.k. that will allow the other countries in the eu to try to adjust. but the reality is, the most important reforms, they are ones that the british government intended to leave behind, in particular the service market. they have been a big pleasure in this -- pusher in this space, particularly because these service markets are not with -- markets open. tom: robin, you are going to make me smarter right now because i'm clueless on article 50. it sounds like something from a science fiction movie. what is article 50 and why we care about it? guest: it is the legal structure under which a country that uses to leave the eu